Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 16053 times)

Xargos · « **Reply #180 on:** January 31, 2007, 07:03:55 AM »

The Sun is going to get hotter as it gets older. Anyway if Gore stoped talking that would help alot with the Global Warming.

midnight Target · « **Reply #181 on:** January 31, 2007, 07:59:02 AM »

Global Warming and Bush

Just in the news Yesterday....

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More than 120 scientists across seven federal agencies say they have been pressured to remove references to "climate change" and "global warming" from a range of documents, including press releases and communications with Congress. Roughly the same number say appointees altered the meaning of scientific findings on climate contained in communications related to their research.

lazs2 · « **Reply #182 on:** January 31, 2007, 08:25:22 AM »

So he told the liars to quit lieing? Or... he has an agenda?

Seems that there is little or no honesty on the whole subject.

The women socialist democrats are working hard at this moment to suck more tax money out of us and to build the government larger with the whole man made global warming scare.. they will introduce mounds of legislation in the next few years that will lower our standard of living and create more government and if will be based on nothing but junk science.

The point still remains... if what is said of the letter from the scientists about the UN document is true then the report says that there is no proof of any significant man made global warming.

If there is no proof then why do these "scientists" continue to say there is? Who are these so called scientists that Bush is shutting up?

If you read the article you will see that it is as short on details as an mt post... It is saying nothing... for all we know the references removed needed to be... like saying that it was the end of the world in 10 years. I listen to NPR and they constantly say "man made global warming" like the only reason for any warming is man. This is false and anyone with any brains knows it but.. they are allowed to say it all day every day.

That's fine for a talk show but not for scientists... unless they have proof.. they shouldn't be able to say it... If we are paying them then we deserve the facts but not their political agenda.

They work for the government.. if the government says they can't say something without fact to back it up.... well... don't say it or get a real job and say whatever you want... Hell... wear the "end is near" sighnboards on your back and walk up and down the street shouting at people.

The doomsday scientists have never been right... they have never even been close.

lazs

Torque · « **Reply #183 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:40:18 PM »

i don't think you need to be a scientist to realize some pro active measures need to be engaged, just look at the ground ozone over any major city these days, it's getting rather pathetic.

homogenizing and streamline the antiquated patch work of public transit would be a good start. make it a more efficient and viable alternative to the car, even to the point of a tax credit.

Nashwan · « **Reply #184 on:** January 31, 2007, 07:23:41 PM »

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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.”...Winston Churchill

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This isn't something Churchill ever said. Indeed, Churchill first stood for parliament as a Conservative at the age of 25. He switched to the Liberal party at age 30, and remained a Liberal until he reached 50.
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Gunston · « **Reply #185 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:08:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
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This isn't something Churchill ever said. Indeed, Churchill first stood for parliament as a Conservative at the age of 25. He switched to the Liberal party at age 30, and remained a Liberal until he reached 50.
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Your may be right about his party affiliation but if he never said it then there are sure a lot of mistaken people out there because it's one of his most often quoted quotes. The following are links followed by quotes from that page that I found with a quick search of the quote.

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/winston_churchill/8.html

“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.”
Winston Churchill quotes (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)
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http://bensommer.com/journal/2004/11/old-man-look-at-my-life.shtml

A thought for you: Winston Churchill stated, "Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."

http://www.bluemoon.net/~sysop/opinion/anti-liberal.txt

Winston Churchill said "Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/index.html

Wake up America
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains....... Winston Churchill, Sir (1874-1965)

http://dailypundit.com/?p=9721

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• Mike Roark
September 9th, 2006 | 12:23:21 pm | #1
The other day I was wondering if there were any stats on the number of people moving left to right v. right to left. Anyone have any idea? There is an old quote you see occasionally - I think attributed to Churchill. Something like “if you’re not liberal when you’re young. you have no heart and if your’re not conservative when you grow older, you have no brains”

• Swen
September 11th, 2006 | 6:23:12 pm | #2
“If you’re not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.”
– Winston Churchill
Ah! One of my favorite quotes.

http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapitalist/conservatism.html
"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." - Winston Churchill

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Nashwan · « **Reply #186 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:28:03 PM »

The Churchill Centre lists the quote as one falsely attributed to Churchill.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #187 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:41:57 PM »

"unquote" (get it? it's in quotes)

says it has been attributed to Churchill, Wendell Wilkie, Woodrow Wilson, George Bernard Shaw, Otto Bismark, George Clemenceu...

I think no one ever said it....

Toad · « **Reply #188 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:43:34 PM »

Standby then...

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.

There. I have said it, you can attribute it to me and you may quote me.

You are welcome.

Gunston · « **Reply #189 on:** January 31, 2007, 10:11:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
The Churchill Centre lists the quote as one falsely attributed to Churchill.

I went to that site and looks like your right. Churchill is one of my favorite people of history and I wouldn't want to dishonor him by leaving it on my signature after I found out he didn't say it. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

oboe · « **Reply #190 on:** February 01, 2007, 03:00:06 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
So he told the liars to quit lieing? Or... he has an agenda?

Seems that there is little or no honesty on the whole subject.

The women socialist democrats are working hard at this moment to suck more tax money out of us and to build the government larger with the whole man made global warming scare.. they will introduce mounds of legislation in the next few years that will lower our standard of living and create more government and if will be based on nothing but junk science.

The point still remains... if what is said of the letter from the scientists about the UN document is true then the report says that there is no proof of any significant man made global warming.

If there is no proof then why do these "scientists" continue to say there is? Who are these so called scientists that Bush is shutting up?

If you read the article you will see that it is as short on details as an mt post... It is saying nothing... for all we know the references removed needed to be... like saying that it was the end of the world in 10 years. I listen to NPR and they constantly say "man made global warming" like the only reason for any warming is man. This is false and anyone with any brains knows it but.. they are allowed to say it all day every day...

lazs

The Bush Administration publicly admitted in 2002 that man-made pollution is responsible for global warming.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #191 on:** February 01, 2007, 03:01:19 PM »

That does not mean anything oboe. They could denouce it an hour after they claim it. It does not mean anything.

oboe · « **Reply #192 on:** February 01, 2007, 04:28:48 PM »

It IS tough to figure, Skuzzy. I was surprised to find multiple links to the story with a google search -- I always thought the admin denied it as a problem. But at nearly the same time, NASA scientists claim the administration is muzzling them and editing their reports to cast doubt on their findings and conclusions.

Seems crazy, or at least inconsistent, on surface appearances.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #193 on:** February 01, 2007, 04:33:34 PM »

The administration is going to go with whatever will make them look the best to the most people with the money oboe.

I would not use such a questionable source to support any argument I make. Not that there are any truly credible sources in this issue. Seems all of them have some sort of agenda outside of the main point.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #194 on:** February 02, 2007, 09:44:31 AM »

More of that evil "consensus"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3hoMzHoKhus&refer=home

You guys ***** over if it is true or not. For me, I know its futile to rebuild New Orleans.