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« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2007, 04:23:34 PM »
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It`s just Monday and already my hopes and dreams are smashed.

Gonna be a long week. :)


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look at the bright side, you are currently traffic ticket free.

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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2007, 06:29:21 PM »
Years ago before I remarried I was pulled over by a cop just as I arrived at my friend's house, whos wife was babysitting my daughters. My '74 duster had a taillight out, but more importantly I had a warrant for a really really old fix-it ticket that i had ignored.

I sat in my car while he ran my license. My friend came out of his house, his wife stayed inside with the kids. when my friend heard the cop say "warrant" he motioned for his wife. My 2 little girls (3 and 8) and his daughters and his wife all came out to the car at once.

My kids did the runing-into-daddy's-arms thing in front of the cop, and my friends gathered around to tell him how I was a single father and all kinds of other mushy crap.

He let me go and asked me to please take care of the warrant.

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« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2007, 09:59:30 PM »
Maverick, take off the red goggles please.  I've had policemen lie to my face.  I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan.  And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.

My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range.  One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five.  She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.

It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it.  My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court.  He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have.  The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours."  That's justice for you.

There are a few decent policemen out there.  But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power.  And some both.

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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2007, 10:51:32 PM »
I love it.

You tell me to take off "the red goggles" then proceed to "tell" me
some anecdotes you got 3rd hand as if it is gospel and use them to tar the majority of LEO's in the field. I would suggest you take off the "goggles" instead. I've heard the same kind of sad "poor me I never did anything wrong" from folks who passed me while I was stopped at a red light then lied to my face when I stopped them. You'll have to excuse me while I consider the story you told me to be much of the same.



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Maverick, take off the red goggles please.  I've had policemen lie to my face.  I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan.  And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.

My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range.  One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five.  She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.

It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it.  My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court.  He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have.  The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours."  That's justice for you.

There are a few decent policemen out there.  But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power.  And some both.
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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2007, 07:14:58 AM »
I was on my way to Bloomington up 446 and as we passed Lake Monroe we saw Sherriff deputies setting up a speed trap so as we were coming back a few hours later I knew to be sure not to speed. (I never go over 5 miles over the speed limit anyway)

As I was passing John Mellencamp's house a Silver Full size truck pulled out in front of my mid size Silver truck and started hauling ass. As we went across the causeway we see the police were still there. 1 facing us just before the road to the boat ramp on the left and 2 past the road facing away from us. Well the truck in front of us saw he was in trouble so he turned on the road to the boat ramp and we were surprised no cop followed him.

We went past the police and to our dismay the cop pulled us over. I asked him what I did and he said I was doing 55 in a 40. I told him I knew they were there and I knew for a fact I was not speeding. I also asked him if he saw the truck in front of me. He of course said there was no truck in front of me. I pointed out there was and the cop that was facing the other way would be able to verify I was telling the truth but he said he was positive it was me and I should just shut up and leave before he writes me another ticket.

I was totally pissed and was going to fight it in court but while I was at a friends house his neighbor a judge came over and I asked him my chances and he told me that in Monroe county the judges will always side with the cops so I would just be wasting time and money.

It's been several years ago and I'm still pissed!

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« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2007, 07:28:15 AM »
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look at the bright side, you are currently traffic ticket free.


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« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2007, 11:11:33 AM »
I have a had a few.


The best was:

I was about 19, driving my second GTO. A crappy 68 with rust and rust repair done by the last owner with fiberglass.

What do you expect for a GTO I paid 350 for?

It was a 1968 GTO with a 360 Horse HO 400 in it. It had a 4 speed Muncie as well. It was sitting in an ROP yard at a local highschool and the teacher sold it to me for 350 and towed it to  my house. His only condition was he kept the tranny and heads.

The car was a rally gauge car, with hiden head lights. 3.55 possi rear, non power brake car. (I put in power brakes)

I took the 400 engine and turbo400 from my first GTO, and was driving it after I had some head work done.

No hood, car not registered, and it was midnight on a friday night and we were about a mile from the big street racing area. That area was crawling with police though cause the weekend before a girl had gotten run over at a big street race down there.


I was going south on the street, its a big industrail area, no one is around at night, but we pass a car. Its a Fremont PD car.

He makes a U turn pulls in behind and his lights go on.  It's me and two buddies, none have seatbelts. (hell only half of them were in the car at the time).

The cop takes his time looking the car over and asks for lic and reg, an d hand over what I have and he asks me if I know the car isnt registered.

I tell him yes, I just got the heads back on (this is true we had worked on it all day, we were all covered in grease)and this was a pre smog check test drive.

(at the time the smog cutoff was 65. It was so nice when Cali moved it to 73)

He asks about the seatbelts and I tell him the truth, the car was mising most of them.

He then gives me a little lecture about how he knows why we are out here, its a know street racing area and from now on it was off limits and I was free to go, but I A needed to tell my friends to find a new strip, and B: I better get the car registered.

I was polite and respectfull.

In my experiance, being polite, admiting you made a mistake and not doing anything to make then nervous is the way to go.

I have been in cars with friends that give them attitude and they always get tickets.



Another time, same GTO, later though since I had a hood on it and a full set of seat belts. I was showing off for a girl in the back and proceeded to do 60 in a 45, and swerve through traffic doing it, never using my blinkers and using alot of gas.

I also never looked in the rear view mirror (didnt help the mirror was warn out and would droop). I pulled into a parking lot and the first I noticed him was as he was blocking me in the space and getting out of his car very pissed.

I close my door and put my grab my DL and Reg, (this time its all legal).

I hand them over without him asking and he asks me "you know why I stopped you?"

I look him right in the eye and say "Cause I am incredibly stupid?".

He looks at me in a funny way and walks back to his car.

Come back and says I could site you for all this stuff, and lists it, speeding, fail to use blicker, unsafe lane change etc.

I say "know sir, thats why I am incredibly stupid"

He looks at me for a second, then goes, ok well I am only going to give you one for doing 55 in a 45.

Not sure why, but I guess it was for admiting, honestly that I was a handsomehunk, I meant it too, I was pretty damn digusted with myself.

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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2007, 04:18:46 PM »
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Maverick, take off the red goggles please.  I've had policemen lie to my face.  I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan.  And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.

My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range.  One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five.  She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.

It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it.  My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court.  He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have.  The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours."  That's justice for you.

There are a few decent policemen out there.  But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power.  And some both.



I seriously doubt a sworn officer would admit to some guy at the range knowledge of civil rights violations, federal crimes and about 5 dozen things that would cost him his freedom & career. Cops don't not talk real shop to people they don't trust 100% anyway, if you know where his throw away is... you're his friend.

You sound like 9 out of 10 "bitter at being cited" people I've ever met, its all a huge ticket conspiracy of lying cops with nothing better to do than screw poor saps.. and you know a guy who talked to a guy who had a fairy tale that validates your beliefs, how shocking.

I knew 2 types of cops; those who hated writing cites and usually only cited those who were COC, and those who loved pulling traffic all day to avoid arresting real criminals and avoided paperwork past EOW at all costs. I can already tell you were stopped by the former, pissed him/her off and got an "attitude cite".

When the cite hating cop stops you s/hes looking for guns/dope/warrants, something good.. whatever you did to get stopped is just probable cause. But once you fail the attitude test, that rolling stop or 7mph over the posted speed limit becomes important. Ask your cops 'friends' if most people talk their way into a ticket, I'll bet you $$ they smile and say "yes".

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« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2007, 07:55:43 PM »
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Maverick, take off the red goggles please.  I've had policemen lie to my face.  I've also paid for other drivers' speeds, just like Vulcan.  And I'm still not happy about the extra $9,000+ I'm still paying in insurance for my first citation.

My brother knows a few policemen from the shooting range.  One of them said that a woman cop in his department regularly went to the freeway, clocked cars going sixty five.  She would then would go onto the backroads and pull over some poor sap going just barely over the speed limit, and cite him for going sixty -five.

It's hearsay, but knowing policemen the way I do, I believe it.  My brother got a bad ticket also, and he contested it in court.  He followed all of the proper procedures to prove that the policeman had not taken all of the steps he should have.  The judge simply said, "The officer's word is better than yours."  That's justice for you.

There are a few decent policemen out there.  But most are either dishonest or enjoy using their power.  And some both.


LOL,

We're knocking down $100,000.00 to $1,000,000.00 currency seizures off drug runners and we're worried about your piddly $150 speeding ticket.

Right....

Drive right and you'll never hear from us.

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« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2007, 11:21:49 PM »
Ah, so you are just another dishonest policeman, Maverick.  I thought so.  Marine, I've never been disrespectful to a policeman's face; I don't say anything unless he asks me and I then mildly respond in as few words as possible.  Concho, I think $150 for a minor driving infraction is perfectly reasonable (and there've been many times I've deserved it).  The accompanying $10,000 dollars in increased insurance rates is not.  For a guy working in a factory (as I was at the time), that's about six months of my life.

Of course, the answer is to not drive over the speed limit - a policy which I now follow for that reason and others (including an unpleasant off-road incident several years ago).  But that won't keep you from being pulled over by a policeman who painted the car in front of you on radar - the car that was going ten to twenty miles per hour faster than you and which got off at the first exit.

When it occurred to me, the policeman wasn't even in his car or holding his radar.  He was walking back to his car empty handed, got in, and either assumed it was me because he didn't see the other car going faster (doubtful) or decided to hit me because he couldn't find the other guy.  Either way, he had absolutely no way of telling which car he painted, since his radar was inside his car and he was not.  And he chose wrong.  

Did I deserve a ticket?  Probably; I was speeding, too.  But did I deserve a ticket that said I was going faster than I really was?  No, I didn't.  But of course, according to Maverick, I'm probably another liar, so be sure to take my word with a big chunk of rock salt.  I think I'm done here.  There are crooked policemen out there, and from my experience they out-number the good ones.
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« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2007, 02:07:35 AM »
I had an Admiral with me. He gave the officer a look of "I will destroy your career" and sent us on our way.


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« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2007, 05:58:56 AM »
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I have a had a few.


The best was:

I was about 19, driving my second GTO. A crappy 68 with rust and rust repair done by the last owner with fiberglass.

What do you expect for a GTO I paid 350 for?

It was a 1968 GTO with a 360 Horse HO 400 in it. It had a 4 speed Muncie as well. It was sitting in an ROP yard at a local highschool and the teacher sold it to me for 350 and towed it to  my house. His only condition was he kept the tranny and heads.

The car was a rally gauge car, with hiden head lights. 3.55 possi rear, non power brake car. (I put in power brakes)

I took the 400 engine and turbo400 from my first GTO, and was driving it after I had some head work done.

No hood, car not registered, and it was midnight on a friday night and we were about a mile from the big street racing area. That area was crawling with police though cause the weekend before a girl had gotten run over at a big street race down there.


I was going south on the street, its a big industrail area, no one is around at night, but we pass a car. Its a Fremont PD car.

He makes a U turn pulls in behind and his lights go on.  It's me and two buddies, none have seatbelts. (hell only half of them were in the car at the time).

The cop takes his time looking the car over and asks for lic and reg, an d hand over what I have and he asks me if I know the car isnt registered.

I tell him yes, I just got the heads back on (this is true we had worked on it all day, we were all covered in grease)and this was a pre smog check test drive.

(at the time the smog cutoff was 65. It was so nice when Cali moved it to 73)

He asks about the seatbelts and I tell him the truth, the car was mising most of them.

He then gives me a little lecture about how he knows why we are out here, its a know street racing area and from now on it was off limits and I was free to go, but I A needed to tell my friends to find a new strip, and B: I better get the car registered.

I was polite and respectfull.

In my experiance, being polite, admiting you made a mistake and not doing anything to make then nervous is the way to go.

I have been in cars with friends that give them attitude and they always get tickets.



Another time, same GTO, later though since I had a hood on it and a full set of seat belts. I was showing off for a girl in the back and proceeded to do 60 in a 45, and swerve through traffic doing it, never using my blinkers and using alot of gas.

I also never looked in the rear view mirror (didnt help the mirror was warn out and would droop). I pulled into a parking lot and the first I noticed him was as he was blocking me in the space and getting out of his car very pissed.

I close my door and put my grab my DL and Reg, (this time its all legal).

I hand them over without him asking and he asks me "you know why I stopped you?"

I look him right in the eye and say "Cause I am incredibly stupid?".

He looks at me in a funny way and walks back to his car.

Come back and says I could site you for all this stuff, and lists it, speeding, fail to use blicker, unsafe lane change etc.

I say "know sir, thats why I am incredibly stupid"

He looks at me for a second, then goes, ok well I am only going to give you one for doing 55 in a 45.

Not sure why, but I guess it was for admiting, honestly that I was a handsomehunk, I meant it too, I was pretty damn digusted with myself.


Honesty probably helps, but some times stupidity mixed with a bit of dishonesty can get you of the hook.

When I was 18 I did a  runner from a traffic cop, or at least I tried to.

On a country road a marked patrol car was comming down the road towards me. When the cop slowed down and turned his lights on I knew he knew I was speeding. Dunno why I did it, but I floored the go pedal when I saw him start to do a U turn in the rear view mirror. If That wasn't stupid enough, my car was a lot slower than his and ran me down within half a mile. I thought I was screwed cause I only pulled over when his car filled my rear view mirror. When he asked me why I sped up and took so long to pull over I told him I didn't see him. That was completely lame of course... black+white patrol car, lights , siren...but it was all I could think of, but amazingly he accepted it and only wrote me up a speeding ticket.

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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2007, 07:09:33 AM »
This isn't me, but my best mate.

This mate of mine is a great bloke but he's a bit of a knob on the roads. He has a total disregard for the speed limit most of the time and gets fines accordingly.

Now, he was driving home one night and he'd had a little bit to drink ( I don't think he was wasted, but he wasn't 0.00 ). He lost concentration and veered into a car. He just scraped along the side of the car (it was parked) and no one was hurt, he just ****ed his car up, folded the wheels under the car on the passenger side and did lots of panel damage.

The car would have been a write-off but he drivers a BMW and works for BMW, so he got everything fixed cheap.


ANYWAY, he fled the scene but reported it first thing in the morning (to avoid the DUI probably), so he got booked for reckless driving and fleeing the scene. With this and the fact that he was 1 demerit point away from losing his licence already, he was sent to court and was facing a conviction, minimum  6 months loss of licene and a $3000 fine... so he'd have a criminal record.


Now, fast forward to court day... he walks into the building at the same time as a lady who lost her hold on the bundle of books and paper she was carrying and drops them all over the floor. My mate turns around and comes back to help her pick up all of her stuff.


When he goes into the court room...... who's sitting in the judge's seat? The lady who dropped her books. The judge let my mate off with a warning, which was incredible considering he was told to expect a conviction.

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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2007, 07:47:02 AM »
I dont try excuses.
I just wave may hand once between he and I and say "your sorry, you thought I was someone else"

and he says
"Im sorry, I thought you were someone else"
an then he just walks back to his car and drives away :p
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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2007, 08:07:04 AM »
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I dont try excuses.
I just wave may hand once between he and I and say "your sorry, you thought I was someone else"

and he says
"Im sorry, I thought you were someone else"
an then he just walks back to his car and drives away :p

you forgot, "these are not the two droids you are looking for"  :D
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