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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #120 on: April 30, 2007, 09:50:06 AM »
Sorta like Iraq ;)
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« Reply #121 on: April 30, 2007, 10:25:14 AM »
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What does it say about a people when you'd prefer the baltic SS to the soviets?
I don't know what it says about the people, but it says volumes about the Soviets.
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« Reply #122 on: April 30, 2007, 10:52:14 AM »
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Instead of giving Soviet warriors their honors - they secretly dug out their remnants and cut the Bronze Soldier apart at night.
 


Except the remnants of the soldiers are still there, untouched. The status hasn't been cut apart. The remnants and the statue will be presented in the military graveyard on May 8th.

Edit: they've now started the dig and found today the expected 12 coffins.

As an interesting sidenote, Russian parlament demanded that Estonia should let Russian politicians to witness the dig, Russian foreign ministry forbade the diplomats at Estonia to participate.

Push, pull, push, pull...

Does Russia have elections coming? This provoked crisis is a good way to divert interest from domestic matters...
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« Reply #123 on: April 30, 2007, 10:55:14 AM »
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Except the remnants of the soldiers are still there, untouched. The status hasn't been cut apart. The remnants and the statue will be presented in the military graveyard on May 8th.


It's obvious that the russkies are once again looking for excuses to create trouble. Wtf is wrong with those people. :(
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« Reply #124 on: April 30, 2007, 11:08:32 AM »
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Wtf is wrong with those people. :(

vodka+inferiority complex+moderately competent armaments industry=trouble
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« Reply #125 on: April 30, 2007, 11:28:56 AM »
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It's obvious that the russkies are once again looking for excuses to create trouble. Wtf is wrong with those people. :(


Wondering that myself, at this same time they are doing the same thing in russia with russian wwII hero remains. But in Estonia they're acting like muslims who've seen a drawing of muhamed.

I think the media in russia is a big part of the problem, as I understand it, some of the news channels there are so ridiculously biased that they're are considered LOL funny by average russians.
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« Reply #126 on: April 30, 2007, 11:33:40 AM »
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Get real, mate. Your http://www.prokarelia.net, eh??


Prokarelia is LOL in here. It's one man and his crusade. He is known loonie and that ain't the only "project" of his. You should see the crap he posts daily in Finnish newsgroups about kazillion different topics. He is mostly ignored, generally just laughed at.
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« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2007, 02:40:09 AM »
The statue is now up in its new location.

Did you know that the model for the statue was a twice olympic gold medalist in wrestling, Kristjan Palusalu (1908-1997). He was a huge man.
During the war this estonian was fighting on the soviet side, but defected at the Finnish front... ran over the lines with his friend shouting "Don't shoot, don't shoot, we are Estonian boys!". He was taken to work in a military hospital. After the war he was handed over to Soviet Union resulting a trip to Siberia. He got freed during Nikita Hrustsov's era/term (1955-1964).. exact year not mentioned.
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« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2007, 04:39:08 AM »
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The statue is now up in its new location.

Did you know that the model for the statue was a twice olympic gold medalist in wrestling, Kristjan Palusalu (1908-1997). He was a huge man.
During the war this estonian was fighting on the soviet side, but defected at the Finnish front... ran over the lines with his friend shouting "Don't shoot, don't shoot, we are Estonian boys!". He was taken to work in a military hospital. After the war he was handed over to Soviet Union resulting a trip to Siberia. He got freed during Nikita Hrustsov's era/term (1955-1964).. exact year not mentioned.


Soviet war hero, en Estonian defector and gular prisoner. How fitting.
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« Reply #129 on: May 01, 2007, 06:27:39 AM »
How ironic..:)

I think there is quite a lot of neonazi-russians involved in the riots, referred as "nationalists" in Finnish media.

Modern day Neonazi Russky defending a WW2 statue, sculpted from defected Soviet soldier who was born in Estonia, who was sent to rot in Gulag camp by Soviet authorities..Huh?
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« Reply #130 on: May 01, 2007, 07:10:35 AM »
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The War of 1812 was an inconvenient sideshow that had little bearing on the European theatre. It ended in stalemate with neither side achieving its objectives.

Still I don't see the relevance to the discussion at hand.


the objective of sending the imperialist americans home wearing their tulips as hats was fulfilled.
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« Reply #131 on: May 01, 2007, 08:14:45 AM »
Ya know... I listen to commies and they all seem to have a pretty good line....like maybe we really didn't know how great it was to live there.

Then you think back and realize that they had frigging walls to keep people in... that when anyone with any talent from there visited.. he had KGB "bodyguards" to keep him from defecting...  That stalin killed 20 million or more of his own people...  That 2 or more families were living in the same apartment.

How anyone can advocate socialism after the example of soviet russia is beyond me.   How low on the scale of hope and ambition must you be to accept such a life?

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« Reply #132 on: May 01, 2007, 09:01:34 AM »
^ *yawn*
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« Reply #133 on: May 01, 2007, 11:12:28 AM »
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the objective of sending the imperialist americans home wearing their tulips as hats was fulfilled.


pay attention to the topic. There were more events worldwide in 1812 than you think.
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« Reply #134 on: May 01, 2007, 11:16:07 AM »
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That 2 or more families were living in the same apartment.



much worse than that


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How anyone can advocate socialism after the example of soviet russia is beyond me.   How low on the scale of hope and ambition must you be to accept such a life?

lazs [/B]


life of the privileged was very different.
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