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« Reply #105 on: April 29, 2007, 08:11:16 AM »
What of it? Are you somehow claiming a Russian influence in that conflict that has relevance to the supposed defeat of Buonaparte by Russia?

The War of 1812 was an inconvenient sideshow that had little bearing on the European theatre. It ended in stalemate with neither side achieving its objectives.

Still I don't see the relevance to the discussion at hand.
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« Reply #106 on: April 29, 2007, 08:28:57 AM »
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Why is there no histeria and rioting when russia exumes wwII veterans from a memorial?

Maybe it's because the russian media doesn't sensationalize it as much? Why is that?


Maybe because there wasn't such stories?

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« Reply #107 on: April 29, 2007, 09:19:46 AM »
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Tune to Russian TV and you'll see a different picture. Both sides are biased - but Estonian polizeis killing Russian citizens is a little too much for us to tolerate.

Imagine if Russians excavate Finnish or American military cemetary - what will be your reaction?


Umm.. Didn't you guys already do that in Karelia where you used the gravestones for bridge building?

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I am bored of talking to people deaf from propaganda. We just want our dead to be left alone. When you guys insist that a Russian guy was stabbed - look at the pictures I posted... Oh sorry someone deleted 3 pages of my posts here, OK. So I guess it's more serious.

Someone definetly wants to see a re-enaction.

I wonder when Solana and other EU officials will admit that they are inheritors of the nazis. Oh, in fact they already did it. Remember, Europe was "united" two times before, and both times Russians had to deal with first Napoleon and then Hitler. Time for a third one?.... [/B]


First of all, mobile phone videos posted by private persons on Youtube can't be propaganda. They're eye witness reports. Somehow they all fail to portray the picture you're giving. That leads us to why your media is trying to paint a false picture of the happenings in Estonia. Is your government looking for another excuse to start war and conquering other countries? For decades you have been the scourge of the region bullying and harassing smaller countries - and it never stops it seems. They're ramping up neonationalism in Russia to turn your eyes away from the internal problems, raging corruption and Putin slowly but surely steadying his dictatorship in the country.
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« Reply #108 on: April 29, 2007, 10:11:19 AM »
the world does owe soviet russia a huge debt for proving that extreme socialism is not only unworkable but fundamentally evil.

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« Reply #109 on: April 29, 2007, 10:53:49 AM »
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the world does owe soviet russia a huge debt for proving that extreme socialism is not only unworkable but fundamentally evil.

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« Reply #110 on: April 29, 2007, 11:34:02 AM »
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the world does owe soviet russia a huge debt for proving that extreme socialism is not only unworkable but fundamentally evil.

lazs


Yeah, but what about the NFL?
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« Reply #111 on: April 29, 2007, 11:58:06 AM »
what is the NFL?

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« Reply #112 on: April 29, 2007, 05:53:55 PM »
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Maybe because there wasn't such stories?


Exactly.

http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2007/04/28/014.html
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« Reply #113 on: April 29, 2007, 07:33:09 PM »
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Exactly.

http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2007/04/28/014.html


it's fake.

in first. that burying was since war and there never was a proper monument.
in second. now there is new, specially built monument you can see it here: http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Roman_alymov/(070428120046)_Monument_Khimki.jpg

before that, that fighters were buryed near the factory perimter. now they obtained their proper place. in center of square. works are not complete yet, but on Victory Day it will be reafdy.

and you mother****ers will never understand what does it mean for us. you can only debate about things you don't understand/

yea i'm drunk. ****. you don't understand, how far are you

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« Reply #114 on: April 29, 2007, 08:02:40 PM »
Then obviously it's not fake.

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« Reply #115 on: April 29, 2007, 11:59:12 PM »
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and you mother****ers will never understand what does it mean for us. you can only debate about things you don't understand/


And some will refuse to understand how the Estonians feel
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« Reply #116 on: April 30, 2007, 02:49:16 AM »
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And some will refuse to understand how the Estonians feel


Well it's obvious that russians never honored the free will of others. Not now or in the past. Yay totaliarism like totally rules, dude!
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« Reply #117 on: April 30, 2007, 04:17:04 AM »
Whole situation is nothing more then Putin testing how unified EU is.

I hope EU quickly sends as many troops to Estonia as possible. If russian citizens are indeed treated so badly there, border isn't far off, you can't go supersonic after all..

Paradize of mother russia is just off 100 km to the east. Go on. Democratic nation of freedom and citizen rights is waiting for them. What the hell are they doing in the Nazi nation like estonia ?

And since we are rewriting history, do remember fellows that World War 2 did not start on 1.9.1939. Only thing that happend on that day is democratically elected polish goverment decided to give up half of the country to Nazi germany, and on 17th it gave the other half to USSR. Shortly thereafter it ordered some of the brightest citizens to march to Katyń and shoot themselves in the biggest mass sucicide in the world..

Paweł, you're way off the rocker my friend.

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« Reply #118 on: April 30, 2007, 04:43:14 AM »
My sister-in law is Latvian, and my brothers been there a few times, and its true that more than a significant majority of Latvians truly hate the communist russians, whereas Latvia does not deny its connections with the wartime germans, the Latvian paramiltaries and waffen SS...

What does it say about a people when you'd prefer the baltic SS to the soviets?

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« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2007, 08:47:37 AM »
yep... you have to watch out or england may send the worlds 28th largest army after you.

eurobarbarians always starting wars over nothing that end up getting the whole world involved.

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