Author Topic: Uprising in Estonia (Read 4393 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #90 on:** April 29, 2007, 04:34:05 AM »

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Originally posted by mora
It's not an official grave, it's just hearsay. That's why they are doing an excavation.

You are making it sound like they are bulldozing a cemetary.

Yes it is an official military memorial cemetary. And they do bulldoze it. I thought you guys understand it.

That's why we are all so mad about it.

Their prime-minister said that people buried there are marauders and drunk looters. But it's an official Soviet soldiers grave.After such words I hope noone will ever shake his bloody hand. Dancing on the bones of the people who lost their lives for their silly existence.

And the sculpture of the Bronze Soldier was made from an Estonian Red Army warrior as a model. They prefer to install monuments to SS legioners now.

Boroda · « **Reply #91 on:** April 29, 2007, 04:37:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
I say that memmorials and graves should be respected and you think i make it sound like that?

By that standard you make it sound like graves and memmorials should be disrespected in general.

I was making a general statement. I mean that both "friendly", nazi, commie and and all other graves in general should be left alone and respected for what they are.

We have German graves well-cared for, like in Borodino field, together with French ones. People finding bodies of German soldiers here treat them with the same respect as Soviet warriors.

Some morally handicapped people simply don't understand such things.

Dowding · « **Reply #92 on:** April 29, 2007, 04:57:27 AM »

The EU is not a Nazi conglomerate.

Russia is running scared in the face of the EU. Unlike the USSR, its members want to be part of it, and more and more former Soviet republics want membership.

After 50 years of benevolent brotherhood as part of the USSR Russia is detested throughout Eastern Europe. I wonder why that is?

Dowding · « **Reply #93 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:00:09 AM »

By the way Napoleon wasn't defeated by Russia. A little known battle in1805 defeated him at sea and allowed Britain to squeeze him on land.

Boroda · « **Reply #94 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:03:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
By the way Napoleon wasn't defeated by Russia. A little known battle in1805 defeated him at sea and allowed Britain to squeeze him on land.

Just go read something about who's troops marched in Paris in 1814.

Funny to hear about Soviet Empire from a Brit. LOL. Go on, teach us.

Bruv119 · « **Reply #95 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:12:59 AM »

Duke of Wellington and Nelson two great tacticians and leaders of men.

Boroda stop chewing peoples heads off with your opinion. Personally I respect Russia for the men and materials that died fighting the onslaught of Nazi Germany. This was 66 years ago now.

I would hope we get over international differences in this modern age but its same stupid politicians with self serving interests that always muddy the waters on BOTH sides.

AWMac · « **Reply #96 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:16:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Sorry I spent 2 months in Australia, and people I met there usually thought I am a Canadian.

Sorry Bud but it doesn't Glean with me... Yeah Right.

Aussies can recognize a Brit or Canadian accent... So yer "Mate" and "Eh" doesn't wash.

Hate to bust you out but yer a fool.

You're not a Russian.

So much for your Drama times.

Mac

WMLute · « **Reply #97 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:27:17 AM »

Do they not teach about The Battle of Trafalgar (probably THE most significant naval battle in the history of the world) in Russia?

AWMac · « **Reply #98 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:34:28 AM »

< Klurig Sparkvetare

Ist das vu? Hur mar ni..

Mac

Someday I'll be a Pope...

Or a Priest pulling a Father Nelson on a Chior Boy...

Wrong!!! Soooo Wrong!

Fishu · « **Reply #99 on:** April 29, 2007, 05:39:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
We'll remember it. We don't leave our dead like that.

Imagine if Russians excavate Finnish or American military cemetary - what will be your reaction?

If there are any dead to begin with. So far there's been nothing but hearsay.

There's nothing bad with moving the dead to an another area when there's a good reason for it. Cemeteries have been moved in the past and will be moved in the future. Some will be simply forgotten and found again from under a construction yard.

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Don't you understand that 1/3 of Estonian population, or more - thousands on ethnic Estonians fought on Red side- is enraged.

You know for a fact that each and every estonian russian is enraged? Of those enraged I've only seen young russians looting stores and beating up people in Tallinn - That's what they'd do at any given chance regardless of the reason, just as long as it's considered to be a good excuse. Some of the young people are like that, up to make trouble with an excuse.

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Both sides are biased - but Estonian polizeis killing Russian citizens is a little too much for us to tolerate.

Right... right... and where'd you got this information? Only one person has been confirmed dead and he was stabbed to death. As far as I know, knife isn't a stantard issue for Estonian police.

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I am bored of talking to people deaf from propaganda.

Argumentum ad hominem;

People doesn't agree with you -> They must be blinded by propaganda.

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When you guys insist that a Russian guy was stabbed - look at the pictures I posted... Oh sorry someone deleted 3 pages of my posts here, OK. So I guess it's more serious.

You can post the links again.

Dowding · « **Reply #100 on:** April 29, 2007, 07:24:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Just go read something about who's troops marched in Paris in 1814.

Funny to hear about Soviet Empire from a Brit. LOL. Go on, teach us.

I believe 1805 pre-dates 1814.

In addition to Trafalgar, the capture of French interests in the Carribean, Mauritius and Réunion in the Indian Ocean from 1808 - 1810 meant Britain could focus on kicking Buonaparte out of Spain and push into France.

Where were the Russians at Waterloo?

Estel · « **Reply #101 on:** April 29, 2007, 07:56:17 AM »

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Originally posted by WMLute
Do they not teach about The Battle of Trafalgar (probably THE most significant naval battle in the history of the world) in Russia?

Trafalgar history is in school program of 9 or 10 grade.

Fishu · « **Reply #102 on:** April 29, 2007, 07:57:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Why don't you make 12% of Swedes "integrate" into Finnish society? They have their own language respected, and they don't have "alien" grey-coloured passports, or do they?

About 5% nowadays. There was something around 20% in 1918. Swedish language isn't really that respected in Finland, because it's status in Finland is way over the actual importance and the youth has came to realise this.

So yeah, they've been slowly integrating. Although, some swedish organizations put up a stiff resistance for a lost cause to keep up the wrongfully high status of the swedes in Finland and are often openly racist towards the finnish speaking population.

Hopefully they will never take an example of Finland in Estonia, how we have granted more and more privileges for the demising swedish minority. Our method would only further serve to alienate the two sides from each others.

Estel · « **Reply #103 on:** April 29, 2007, 07:59:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
I believe 1805 pre-dates 1814.

In addition to Trafalgar, the capture of French interests in the Carribean, Mauritius and Réunion in the Indian Ocean from 1808 - 1810 meant Britain could focus on kicking Buonaparte out of Spain and push into France.

Where were the Russians at Waterloo?

And what about the war of 1812? Or this is not a part of your school program?

Suave · « **Reply #104 on:** April 29, 2007, 08:07:44 AM »

Why is there no histeria and rioting when russia exumes wwII veterans from a memorial?

Maybe it's because the russian media doesn't sensationalize it as much? Why is that?