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Offline JB88

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which branch of governement is cheney in again?
« on: June 26, 2007, 12:10:52 PM »
cheney claims that he is not a part of the executive branch


VP Claims He's Not Part of Executive Branch
This week's political theatre brought to you courtesy of the Vice President's office.

In order to justify five years of refusing to file annual reports with the National Archives and Records Administration oversight office, last week Vice President Cheney's office said it was exempt from a federal order because ... his office isn't really part of the Executive Branch of government.

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um.  what?

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In response, Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, says that Tuesday he will introduce legislation to defund the Vice President's office. Emanuel wants to suspend the $4.4 million allocated for the Vice President's office "until the vice president acknowledge he [is] in the executive branch or the Government Accountability Office determine which branch Cheney serve in."

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 12:18:54 PM »
Yawn...investigation # 63 since that fateful day in November...I'm sure Henry Waxman will get into it as well. Too bad they didn't get that serious with Sandy Berger.

(What Cheney is claiming, is that the VP is ALSO president(?) of the Senate, who would occasionally vote to break a 50/50 tie, and as such, is exempt from this. Yah...kinda weak. What lies behind this is Cheney's ongoing premise that too much power has swung from the executive branch to Congress over the years--since Watergate-- and as a matter of principle, he fights them tooth and nail on everything.
PRObably needs to find better legal grounds though:)
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 02:58:07 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 05:03:06 PM »
its dumb founding how people( Cheney , A. Gonzalez) these days can avoid any acountability once so ever. its almost  like they feel like getting voted into office gives them free reign to do as the please. and then when the whole thing comes tumbling down be looking for them to defend themselves by saying,

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 05:41:07 PM »
"VP Claims He's Not Part of Executive Branch
This week's political theatre brought to you courtesy of the Vice President's office.

In order to justify five years of refusing to file annual reports with the National Archives and Records Administration oversight office, last week Vice President Cheney's office said it was exempt from a federal order because ... his office isn't really part of the Executive Branch of government."

Doh!  Back to U.S Civics 101 with you, Dick!
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
Did anyone catch last night's Daily Show? They had a clip of Cheney claiming exemption from something because he was part of the Executive Branch.

Can't have it both ways, Dick.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 06:41:20 PM »
what are the democrats fishing for this time?

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 06:54:10 PM »
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what are the democrats fishing for this time?



doesn't sound like they're fishing for anything.  As a member of the Republican party for almost 20 years, I am interested in how the Office of the Vice President isn't part of the Executive Branch like our Vice Emperor..err I mean Vice President claims.


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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 10:00:54 PM »
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Originally posted by Sundowner
...last week Vice President Cheney's office said it was exempt from a federal order because ... his office isn't really part of the Executive Branch of government."

Doh!  Back to U.S Civics 101 with you, Dick!
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From your high school civics lessons, you might remember that the VP is the president of the Senate, a legislative branch institution.  As he has responsibilities in the legislature, perhaps he is in the legislative branch.

That is the argument DCheney is using, and while it is rediculous, it may ultimately have to have a judge decide it because it does have some technical merit.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 10:06:52 PM »
Well, there are three distinct and separate branches of the guberment as dictated by our constitution. Which other office spans the divide among them? Perhaps the framers of our constitution just gave the VP additional duties 'cause they figured he wouldn't have much to do but should nonetheless earn his pay?
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 11:35:08 PM »
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Well, there are three distinct and separate branches of the gooberment as dictated by our constitution. Which other office spans the divide among them? Perhaps the framers of our constitution just gave the VP additional duties 'cause they figured he wouldn't have much to do but should nonetheless earn his pay?


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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 02:46:06 AM »
I agree with the one senator.. If Cheney isn't part of the executive branch as he claims. then his funding needs to be cut.

I'm also still voting yet to sending him to Getmo..
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2007, 02:57:29 AM »
It's starting to get pretty funny watching people whom still "claim" to support this admin. Come up with excuses why all the crap like this they pull is ok.

I'm guess about the only thing the Bush supporters have left is the "anti-liberal" argument and calling us names.

ummm..


Scotter Libby..
Karal Rove
Donnald Rumpfield..
John Ashcroft
Mike Brown.
I'm sure there are more but that's just off the top of my head..


Now we have Alberto Gonzales whom pretty much out right lies to the American public by claiming not to be able to remember anything.

And now more BS out of the VP's office as if 90% of the scandals didn't originate from there anyway.


The best part about it all, is Bush ran his entire platform in 2000 on brining back "Honor and Integrity" to the white house. I just wonder, when exactlly did he plan to start bringing that back?


:rofl :rofl :rofl

btw...

which branch of government is Chaney in again?

I bet Chaney just can't remember, he probably has Alzheimer's and can't remember anything like Alberto..
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2007, 03:59:52 AM »
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Originally posted by crockett
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btw...

which branch of government is Chaney in again?

I bet Chaney just can't remember, he probably has Alzheimer's and can't remember anything like Alberto..


I dont know who this Chaney is...

But Vice President ChEney is held under the following part of the US Constitution:
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Section. 3.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.


As far as I can tell, other than assuming the Presidency in case of resignation removal or death of the President, this is the only constitutional duty of the VP.

If his only constitutional duty is as the President of the Senate, perhaps constitutionally he is part of the Senate...  at least he has a valid argument.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2007, 06:48:14 AM »
The Washington Post is running a four-part series on Cheney that apparently is also available here:

http:http://www.washingtonpost.com/cheney

It's called Angler, the Cheney Vice Presidency.

Hard to figure out if Cheney is Machiavelli or Rufus Rose (the puppeteer of Howdy Doody).

Whatever and however, he is definitely a go-to action man.
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