Author Topic: He 177 A-5 heavy bomber (Read 4923 times)

tedrbr · « **Reply #30 on:** July 24, 2007, 10:11:29 PM »

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Originally posted by RAIDER14
TU-4 never say service in ww2........I think

I think Russians got in operational in 1947, IIRC.

Serenity · « **Reply #31 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:48:58 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
I think Russians got in operational in 1947, IIRC.

Yes.

And movie, those facts are right. Checked myself, all 3 books I have those stats listed in. Of all people, I trust TwinBoom to do his research.

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:59:38 PM »

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Originally posted by RAIDER14
TU-4 never saw service in ww2........I think

edited:D

DaddyAck · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2007, 01:02:12 AM »

Would love to see the He-177 since engine fires due to oil lnes bursting into flame from poor placement in the BD610s. BUT I would like to see the He-111 first.

Serenity · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:22:53 AM »

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Originally posted by DaddyAck
BUT I would like to see the He-111 first.

Nice save

Wes14 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:43:18 AM »

Soooooooo...Thats why spitfire pilots were able to land alotta kills..?

DaddyAck · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2007, 03:21:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Serenity
Nice save

I like it, unfourtunately that picture/campeighn Ad is too late

I did vote for the He-111 as long as I could, and wish it were the next plane. It would give the LW bomber pilots an alternative to the 88 and 87 and would fill gaps in the FSO/Senario plane sets. IMHO would have made for a great help in future BoB events.

DaddyAck · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2007, 03:31:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
Heinkel actually tried.
Even back in November 1938 Heinkel made a proposal to build a few prototypes with four seperate engines (Jumo 211). This request was denied, as a four engined version would have been incapable of divebombing.
(Interestingly the 177 was not really used for divebombing operationally at all)

Yeah, but due to an asenine order stemming from the late 30's, bomber desighns of the time had to be capable of dive bombing as well.

Heinkel pursued this project privately (He 177B). In 1943 he was allowed to continue work on a four-engied version , resulting in the He 277 which did fly in late 43.
To my knowledge, 8 He 277 were build in 1944

Another evolution of the 177 was the He 274, a high altitude bomber with a service ceiling around 45000 feet.The prototype was built by Famran in Suresnes but only completed after the war (then named AAS 01A)

(A small note: ALL 177 were actually four engied. The DB 610 of the seemingly twin engined versions was actually two DB 605 coupled at the propeller shaft, but basically still independent engines)

The DB10 was considered one engine, though made of 2 coupled 605s they turned the same crank shaft in an inline manner in the nacelle. This engine desighn was really prone to engine fires because of the close proximities between fuel/oil lines and exaust ports. Though considered one engine, the plumbing and exaust was never really dealt with as one engine, but plummed as two.

Not trying to correct anything cause what you said was correct, just adding my 2cents to it

Movie · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2007, 01:19:17 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
I think Russians got in operational in 1947, IIRC.

does HTC add planes between 1939-1945 and/or the combat it saw?

Serenity · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2007, 01:31:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Movie
does HTC add planes between 1939-1945 and/or the combat it saw?

It HAD to see combat between the declaration of war, and the final surrender. So, the Tu-4 is out.

Serenity · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2007, 01:32:45 PM »

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Originally posted by DaddyAck
I like it, unfourtunately that picture/campeighn Ad is too late

Yeah. My computer was broken during voting, so I missed the whole thing. Didnt even get to place a single vote

DaddyAck · « **Reply #41 on:** July 28, 2007, 03:47:58 AM »

yeah you did miss it, the he-111 made it a few rounds then *poof* gone

It's ok though, we have the B-25 coming (ironic part is that it is the older model D or G that had no tail gun and is not the J or H people though it would be, and was it not everyones agument against the he-111 that it was older and under armed. Go figure that one) according to the development screenies.

Movie · « **Reply #42 on:** July 28, 2007, 01:56:06 PM »

just add this plane and i rather be a sitting duck

brand new too rolling off the factory of Airbus

Mr No Name · « **Reply #43 on:** July 28, 2007, 02:17:45 PM »

i bet they'll fit 800 mexicans and 3 dozen chickens on that thing!

tedrbr · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2007, 02:37:49 PM »

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Originally posted by DaddyAck
....It's ok though, we have the B-25 coming (ironic part is that it is the older model D or G that had no tail gun and is not the J or H people though it would be, and was it not everyones augment against the he-111 that it was older and under armed. Go figure that one) according to the development screenies.

Watch it there DaddyAck! You don't want to draw the ire of Rino and Bronk now, do you? You are risking charges of treason, sacrilege, blasphemy, and excommunication in questioning the will of da people or the HTC Gawds. You've been warned.

(btw, it could be even worse, we can't see in those pics if the B-25 has the ventral turret or not.....)