Open carry test

[kotrenin]

Both, the gentleman carrying the gun and the police officer are within their rights.  

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE XII: PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE

159:4 Carrying Without License. – No person shall carry a loaded pistol or revolver in any vehicle or concealed upon his person, except in his dwelling, house or place of business, without a valid license therefor as hereinafter provided. A loaded pistol or revolver shall include any pistol or revolver with a magazine, cylinder, chamber or clip in which there are loaded cartridges. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall, for the first such offense, be guilty of a misdemeanor. For the second and for each subsequent violation of the provisions of this section, such person shall be New Hampshire Statutesguilty of a class B felony, provided such second or subsequent violation has occurred within 7 years of the previous conviction.

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE LIX: PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

 594:2 Questioning and Detaining Suspects. – A peace officer may stop any person abroad whom he has reason to suspect is committing, has committed or is about to commit a crime, and may demand of him his name, address, business abroad and where he is going.

The police officer may ask for other forms of I.D.  but the citizen may refuse to give it.

And just to remind everybody...

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE LIX: PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

594:5 Resisting Arrest. – If a person has reasonable ground to believe that he is being arrested and that the arrest is being made by a peace officer, it is his duty to submit to arrest and refrain from using force or any weapon in resisting it, regardless of whether there is a legal basis for the arrest.

On the other hand the idiot running his mouth and getting in the other police officers face should have been beaten Rodney King style if for nothing else but for my amusement.

[Slash27]

Originally posted by AWMac

Arizona has Open Carry.  I've seen many people with side arms in public. I haven't seen a Fast Food Francise were a gunman enters and opens fire on the crowd like in Hmmmmm.... lets see... Texas maybe?

Open Carry gives a bad guy alot to think about before going Postal.

Mac

Yeah, walk in Taco Bell and start shooting. No one here carries a weapon.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by kotrenin
Both, the gentleman carrying the gun and the police officer are within their rights.  

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE XII: PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE

159:4 Carrying Without License. – No person shall carry a loaded pistol or revolver in any vehicle or concealed upon his person, except in his dwelling, house or place of business, without a valid license therefor as hereinafter provided. A loaded pistol or revolver shall include any pistol or revolver with a magazine, cylinder, chamber or clip in which there are loaded cartridges. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall, for the first such offense, be guilty of a misdemeanor. For the second and for each subsequent violation of the provisions of this section, such person shall be New Hampshire Statutesguilty of a class B felony, provided such second or subsequent violation has occurred within 7 years of the previous conviction.

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE LIX: PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

 594:2 Questioning and Detaining Suspects. – A peace officer may stop any person abroad whom he has reason to suspect is committing, has committed or is about to commit a crime, and may demand of him his name, address, business abroad and where he is going.

The police officer may ask for other forms of I.D.  but the citizen may refuse to give it.

And just to remind everybody...

New Hampshire Statutes TITLE LIX: PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

594:5 Resisting Arrest. – If a person has reasonable ground to believe that he is being arrested and that the arrest is being made by a peace officer, it is his duty to submit to arrest and refrain from using force or any weapon in resisting it, regardless of whether there is a legal basis for the arrest.

On the other hand the idiot running his mouth and getting in the other police officers face should have been beaten Rodney King style if for nothing else but for my amusement.

Yet another Noble Scholar emerges from the dark...

Perhaps you'd like to review the video again and come to an understanding the difference between "Concealed and Open Carry" Einstein.

He wasn't arrested he was being questioned and had his freedom denied. What crime was he suspected of? Walking down the sidewalk?  He was asked for his Drivers Lic... for walking?  Reread your Laws.

Where do you come up with Resisting arrest? He acted well within the Law by providing his name and origin of residence.

As for his friend being an Idiot...Sure he was, but is being a public handsomehunk a crime worthy of being beatin on the street like Rodney King?  Or were you just thinking that Gestopo Jack Boot tactics will save all of the Community from ourselves?

The "Safety Officer" was unaware of the "Open Carry" Law.
The additional officers, once they realized Joe Citizen was well within the Law attempted to divert the incident to two unrelative things. One being the Car Wash posters on the Telephone pole which had NOTHING to do with this incident.
And that not more than three people can join together and block a sidewalk.  This Joe Citizen did NOT ask these people to join upon the sidewalk... They were just merely concerned Citizens. As for blocking the sidewalk, please observed the Police and Safety Officers... Who is blocking the sidewalk?  No crime has been commited.

Oh and the one officer got pee'd off for having a Video Camera in the presence of a non crime? WTF? Big Brother?  Obviously this IS another crime in the making.

Gheesh where do these Intelects come from?

Mac

[Thrawn]

What the hell is a "safety officer" anyways and why is he dressed like a state trooper?

[AWMac]

Originally posted by Thrawn
What the hell is a "safety officer" anyways and why is he dressed like a state trooper?

A Meter Maid with a Chip on his shoulder.

He couldn't be a REAL Police Office so he wears a Cowboy Hat and has a Stick Pony.

Mac

[kotrenin]

First of all I agreed that the man with the gun is right, to carry his weapon in plain view, and to release verbally to  the officer only his name and address.  It is the first line I wrote.  I understand that the law only mentions concealed pistols only and not pistols carried openly.  That is why I cut and pasted the law right into my post so everyone could review  it.  I do not have a problem with this man!!

I did not say the man was arrested I only noted the law  for resisting arrest because of this post  

Originally posted by SteveBailey
So if an officer is making an unlawful arrest you are a trouble maker for resisting?

I am not saying this man is a trouble maker I just listed the law for review.

As for the man with the mouth, I work in a business where I have to deal with people like this every work day.  And they can be scary because they are unpredictable.  This man is far more scary than the man with the open carry pistol.  When you have to worry everyday about whether you will make it home at the end of your shift to see your wife and kids you become very worried and on edge.  This man was not even involved in the initial incident but he tried to make himself a part of it.

Next time read all the words not just the ones you like.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by kotrenin
First of all I agreed that the man with the gun is right, to carry his weapon in plain view, and to release verbally to  the officer only his name and address.  It is the first line I wrote.  I understand that the law only mentions concealed pistols only and not pistols carried openly.  That is why I cut and pasted the law right into my post so everyone could review  it.  I do not have a problem with this man!!

I did not say the man was arrested I only noted the law  for resisting arrest because of this post  
I am not saying this man is a trouble maker I just listed the law for review.

As for the man with the mouth, I work in a business where I have to deal with people like this every work day.  And they can be scary because they are unpredictable.  This man is far more scary than the man with the open carry pistol.  When you have to worry everyday about whether you will make it home at the end of your shift to see your wife and kids you become very worried and on edge.  This man was not even involved in the initial incident but he tried to make himself a part of it.

Next time read all the words not just the ones you like.

You did a "Cut and Paste" on something that had nothing to do with the incident.  Next time please "Cut and Paste" the Laws that apply to the incident and NOT just the ones you like.

BTW if you worry every day about the scary people then maybe you should "Open Carry".

Think about it and don't Whine.

Mac

[kotrenin]

What do you mean it had nothing to do with it?  It was the law from New Hampshire, where this man is at, stating this mans right to carry that pistol openly in plain view of the public and his right to give out only strict personal information to the police.

And my worries are not about law abiding citizens that carry weapons openly, it is about unpredictable people that may attack me while my back is turned trying to help out someone in trouble.  I'm a medic with a fire department in a large city, and when I'm elbow deep in someone's exposed guts I can not defend myself.  We don't usually have police or other firemen with us on every run.  And we do get attacked,  people have no respect for us.  We wear a uniform and people automatically think we are the police so they become violent with us.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by kotrenin
What do you mean it had nothing to do with it?  It was the law from New Hampshire, where this man is at, stating this mans right to carry that pistol openly in plain view of the public and his right to give out only strict personal information to the police.

And my worries are not about law abiding citizens that carry weapons openly, it is about unpredictable people that may attack me while my back is turned trying to help out someone in trouble.  I'm a medic with a fire department in a large city, and when I'm elbow deep in someone's exposed guts I can not defend myself.  We don't usually have police or other firemen with us on every run.  And we do get attacked,  people have no respect for us.  We wear a uniform and people automatically think we are the police so they become violent with us.

Jeezus Francis stop back peddling.

You cut and pasted a "Concealed Carry" Law when obviously this was an "Open Carry" incident.

You cut and pasted a "Resisting Arrest" Law which the incident was not about.

You cut and pasted a "Questioning and Detaining Suspects" Law which this incident did not fall under.

Then you politely ended that his friend should have been beaten "Rodney King" style.

Then you claim you are fear of yer life on a Day to Day basis due to "quote" the "Scary People" out there "Unquote".

C'mon Cupcake stop the back peddling and stick to yer guns... opps not a good saying for you.  If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen is a better one.

If daily life spooks you that much and the stress is too much to bear then sell Avon or Amway.

Please reread your "Cut and Paste" Laws.... It has nothing to do with this mans right to "Open Carry" a firearm.  If you can't see that then Google the same Laws for a Braille copy and touch your monitor.

Mac

[kotrenin]

Other people on this thread posted questions about these laws.  I just listed the laws so they could be read.   If you had read the law chapters you would notice that their is no law named "open carry" or "concealed carry" only "Carry without License" which is the section I referenced, "159:4 Carrying Without License" http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-4.htm .

Again the other sections I mentioned were because throughout this thread people have mentioned them without referencing them. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/nhtoc.htm

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Thrawn
What the hell is a "safety officer" anyways and why is he dressed like a state trooper?

He is a state trooper. The patch says State Police, Safety Officer. In Texas the troopers are the Dept. Of Public Saftey.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by kotrenin
Other people on this thread posted questions about these laws.  I just listed the laws so they could be read.   If you had read the law chapters you would notice that their is no law named "open carry" or "concealed carry" only "Carry without License" which is the section I referenced, "159:4 Carrying Without License" http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-4.htm .

Again the other sections I mentioned were because throughout this thread people have mentioned them without referencing them. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/nhtoc.htm

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Thank you for Posting.

Mac

[SirLoin]

Dave handled the the situation very professionally..Great video shot of his buddy explaining how he was not free to walk down the sidewalk.

I think the "accosting" cops caught on to the fact that with live cell broadcast,their jobs"cover thy as$" were on the line & were waiting for their area superintendant to arrive to take over responsibility...And he was fishing for a disturbance of the peace charge...I guess cops think the second ammendment only applies to them.

His rights..had he not had his phone on,would have most likely been abused had he not been so smart..

Any Canadians here that know of your rights when you are walking down the sidewalk?..Can't open carry i know..but what info must u provide when prompted?

Feel like wearing an open-carry cellphone in holster.

[AWMac]

Maybe a shoulder holstered Twinkie?

"Back!!! Back!!! I'm a Citizen on the Edge and I know how to use this thing!!!"



Mac

[Shaky]

Originally posted by kotrenin
I'm a medic with a fire department in a large city,

Which city? We gotta talk...take it to PM if ya wanna