A general question

[CAFghost]

I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by CAFghost
I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know.

Icon distance is in yards. For sure.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by CAFghost
I heard EVERYTHING was feet. I can't seem to find a 'for sure' answer to
this. If anyone knows where/how to confirm. Let me know.

Icon display is in yards.  It always has been.  There is no question about it.  Its like asking for conformation that the sky is blue.

[Rolex]

"You can avoid both types of Radar (dot & bar dar) by staying below 200'
AGL (above ground level) Just LOVE that treetop flying!

Also, a single plane in a sector will not set off Bar Dar but a single set of
Bombers will. To be truely invisible, you have to weave in and out of all
Radar Rings, stay 13k away from ALL Fields and other Targets, below 200'
AGL and/or a single small plane deep behind the lines..."

I'm sorry, but this is incorrect.

- Radar for bar and dot is 500'AGL, so you can avoid radar detection by flying a little higher than treetop.
- A single plane will display bar dar, but you cannot see it if you are the single plane in the sector. Others do see it.

The answers to almost all these type questions are free. There is no charge to read the FAQ, Help files, trainers or netaces websites.

[Easyscor]

Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.

[bj229r]

If a one-plane-sized dar bar is in a sector far away from action, it's prolly a buff, and it's not hard to figger where he came FROM, and not hard to figger where he's going TO---even a P47 at alt can hunt it down it in short time---best to traverse to your target through a sector with friendlies, and avoid radar circles...once you're in middle of nowhere, hit target fast and egress, and hope no 262's are about

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by Easyscor
Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.

There's been some good advice in this thread but this is the best.  

Rich don't let the bs get you down.  Play the way you want to play but I do believe that you're being tracked by dedicated buff killers.  Buffs are relatively easy to kill when caught unawares and those guys know just how to do it.  

Get with a trainer or a more experienced vet and figure out what's happening.  I really don't think that 'cheating' is going on here.  

Good luck sir

PS.  I didn't get hazed much and am feeling left out.  

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Dichotomy
...
PS.  I didn't get hazed much and am feeling left out.  

Dicho, bud, could you run to the parts store and get me a power band?

[scottydawg]

Originally posted by Simaril
Dicho, bud, could you run to the parts store and get me a power band?

Yeah pick me up some prop wash while you're there, n00b.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Easyscor
Rich46yo your post painted a big 'newb' sign on your forehead and you're being hazed for it. Before your wheels come off the tracks, find an old-timer squad or player in the MA who is willing to impart the intermediate knowledge without all the harassment in exchange for winging with them. GL.

                            Oh no please, stop the hazing? I'll be a good newb, or noob...pleeeeeeze? Having a crop of hairless, prepubescent Mommies boys calling me a newb is just killing me. Please stop, I'll be good.

                          I dont need an old timer, and dont know what your talking about. Apparently you never read all the thread. Yesterday I took 8 runs, took out targets, fighters, got them home. So I must be doing something right.

                 I got to go. My Mommies calling.

""""There's been some good advice in this thread but this is the best.

Rich don't let the bs get you down. Play the way you want to play but I do believe that you're being tracked by dedicated buff killers. Buffs are relatively easy to kill when caught unawares and those guys know just how to do it.

Get with a trainer or a more experienced vet and figure out what's happening. I really don't think that 'cheating' is going on here.

Good luck sir"""

                     Thank you for posting like a gentleman. But even you are clueless as to what I was saying. My skills, your skills, me cheating personally, you cheating personally, had nothing to do with this thread. Ive survived far worse then 16yos calling me newb my friend. But I appreciate the well intentioned advice anyways even if it does make me chuckle.

                   Well............maybe I'll just leave the thread for good. My Mom doesnt want me spending all this time on my computer anyways. "Mommie, I'm coming".

[CAFghost]

Originally posted by Murdr
Icon display is in yards.  It always has been.  There is no question about it.  Its like asking for conformation that the sky is blue.

Originally posted by Rolex
I'm sorry, but this is incorrect.

- Radar for bar and dot is 500'AGL, so you can avoid radar detection by flying a little higher than treetop.
- A single plane will display bar dar, but you cannot see it if you are the single plane in the sector. Others do see it.

The answers to almost all these type questions are free. There is no charge to read the FAQ, Help files, trainers or netaces websites.

Murdr
Prove it! Friendly wager? Cold Beer!
For D100, that Squadmate looks a hell of a lot closer then 2 monster
bombs from Bret Favre!! (from Wisconsin )

Rolex
I always thought it was 500'. 100% of everyone in MA says to avoid both
it had to be 200'. 500' for one, and 200' for the other. To simplify, all in
Missions would just say "below 200' ". (doesn't say much I know )

...and I HAVE read though all sections. Websites are still run by humans
who are not perfect, nor simply owning (programmer myself) a site makes
it the final word of truth. Were you implying from my long-winded post
I wasn't doing my homework?

Love to fly/train with you two someday and step-up my dogfighting skills.
Thanks guys!

[Lusche]

Originally posted by CAFghost

Rolex
I always thought it was 500'. 100% of everyone in MA says to avoid both
it had to be 200'. 500' for one, and 200' for the other. To simplify, all in
Missions would just say "below 200' ". (doesn't say much I know )
 

The 200' answer is one of the two major uneradicable myths (The other one is about the purple CH2 text channel). It has always been 500' in AH.
It was confirmed by HTC on this BBS, it was confirmed countless by non-believers who did test it, and you can check it yourself: Fly into an empty sector and ask a friend if you mae a darbar. Or you can just look it up: Go offline (any map) and check "Radar alt" at default settings.

[CAFghost]

Thank You!
Thanks for backing this up and how to test. I've asked about
this several times in other posts and old accounts with zip.
I don't care what Murdr says - you're all right!

Whats this CH2 thing? Never heard even a rumor on this...

[Lusche]

Originally posted by CAFghost
I don't care what Murdr says - you're all right!

If in doubt, you are usually better off trusting Murdr than trusting me

Originally posted by CAFghost

Whats this CH2 thing? Never heard even a rumor on this...

Not a rumor.

It's just that the majority of people believe that purple CH2 text channel is "local", and works similar to the local range vox channel. They use it to type messages to other people around them.

But it doesn't work that way. It is "room". That means only people that took off from the same field can read this channel - but they can do it regardless of range, even across the map.

If you are circling above a V-field and try to warn your teammates in GVs about inbound enemy forces: They can not read "your" CH2.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by Lusche
The 200' answer is one of the two major uneradicable myths (The other one is about the purple CH2 text channel). It has always been 500' in AH.
It was confirmed by HTC on this BBS, it was confirmed countless by non-believers who did test it, and you can check it yourself: Fly into an empty sector and ask a friend if you mae a darbar. Or you can just look it up: Go offline (any map) and check "Radar alt" at default settings.

(offline)

Options ==> Arena Settings  ==> Environment  ==> Radar Alt

You will see it's set for 500'.

It's one of the settings we put at 0' for KOTH so you can always see the enemy dot's.

As far as rich goes...

I'm STILL not sure what he's asking.  

Originally posted by Rich46yo
How far from a enemy airbase do you have to be before you cant be seen by fighters?

You will always show a sector counter if over 500'.  You will show up as a "dot" on their map if you are within an enemy radar circle.  (right click map, choose RADAR)  

You do not see your own dar bar.  (i.e. if you are flying around in a sector by yourself, the sector does not show a Sector Counter on your map.  EVERYBODY else can see that there is a dar bar in that sector on their map)

Visual range is 10,000 yards.

Originally posted by Rich46yo
Then there is the other possibility. That players share information on their own team in order to run up their kills. You can see you own teams little green dots anywhere on the board right? How hard would it be to mssg, phone call, or even sit side by side with a friend on the enemies team and share info?

It sounds like you are suggesting that a player on your team saw you taking off, and alerted someone on the other side as to your location.  

Why bother?  Not really worth the effort for a single buff formation.

The enemy can see you on radar.  It's simple as can be to watch the dar bar in sectors change and to guess the probable target.  If I see an enemy in a sector, but I can't see the dot, I will look at the map w/ RADAR pulled up.  From there it's fairly simply to guess where they are and what their target is.

No need for any "inside information" from the other side.  Simple observation and logic will allow me to vector my plane to their location.  (though sometimes ya' got to do some searching for the really sneaky ones)

Rich, does that answer your question?  

(I see Lusche has already explained the range channel "myth")