Originally posted by moot
South Africa isn't the USA, wild west isn't today, . Apples to apples Crockett..
The USA's history is bloody, but what country's history isn't? What country has striven for everything the USA stands (or is meant to anyway) for without some bloody conflict at some point?
Amuse everyone else Crockett, what is your better alternative to the second amendment?
There's more wrong with the man than with the guns in just about everything you denounce.
Red Herring, dark side of the moon, non sequitur.. take your pick:
Just bleeding heart maybe? In that case you're adding your share to the complications, creating problems where there are none.
I'm not for a bunch of extra laws but I do think hand guns should be tracked. If you want to go to K-Mart and buy a hunting rifle be my guest I have nothing against that.
Rifles and shotguns are not so easily concealed so they pose less of a threat in public. (assuming it's not a short tactical style shot gun).
Hand Guns are the problem, they are cheap, easy to get and easy to hide. We already have a law on the books which apparently isn't unconstitutional as it's held up for quite some time. You already have to have a federal firearms license to buy a full automatic gun.
I think the same kind of rule should be put in place for hand guns, but of course be a little easier to get. I simply think all HG's should be titled just like a car is.. Each sale should be tracked. Each HG at time of manufacture should have a ballistic test on file.
If you want to buy a HG then you should have to have a license for it. Just like you have to pass a test to drive a car, you should also have to pass a gun safety test to be able to carry a hand gun.
Would this solve every gun crime.. No it sure wouldn't, but it would go a long way towards making it harder for criminals to get legal HG's. If they get caught with a unregistered HG or without a HG license then it should be a mandatory sentence just like getting caught driving drunk.
I'm not against law abiding citizens owning guns, as I said I own guns myself. However it's time people face the facts that guns are deadly and require responsibility in ownership. It's time gun owners are made to be responsible.
In short I think a CCW is pretty dumb. The reason I say that is because any HG is easily concealable, regardless if you have a licence to conceal it or not.
So I say why not treat all HG's as a concealed weapon and extend the CCW to "all" HG ownership. So yes maybe you give up a little on the ease of buying a HG, however once you legally obtain your license you are free to carry it, assuming it's not at a "gun free zone"
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Now sure as I said, it doesn't do away with gun crimes, however it does make it much harder for criminal to get legal guns. If they get caught then the legal system has another tool to work with to maybe prevent a crime.
If a crime takes place, well it's going to be easier for police to track the gun used in that crime, because of the ballistic tests that are on file and the gun transfer records. In the end the people whom are carrying legal HG's would at the very least have proven themselves competent enough to have passed a gun training and safety class.
You guys think just because I appose your thoughts on guns that it somehow makes me against guns. That's far from the truth. I'm for the right to own guns, but I think owning that gun requires responsibility and I think we should be doing everything we can to keep the guns out of the hands of the wrong people.
So in short I'm not a anti gun nut.. I'm a nut whom believes in responsible gun ownership.