Where were the sane licensed carrying gun owners in all this?

[lazs2]

cripes... 88 agreed with me... where did I go wrong?   Am I getting old and soft?

bingalong..  what exactly is an "M2 kit"? are to make an M1 into a functional and reliable  full auto with M2 parts you would need the entire trigger group and bolt.  It may take 10 minutes... it may take a lot longer.  


Who cares in any case.. where you gonna buy an M2 trigger group?   In the case of full auto ak and sks guns...  most are crude.. the guns themselves are forgiving and sloppy and will take some bad amature gunsmithing but.. they won't be very reliable.

lazs

[john9001]

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I just got back from meeting up with folks from all over the world. the tragic event in omaha was hot topic for the last two evenings of the convention at the watering hole. a texan related an anecdote about some guy walking into a dallas mall and racking a shotgun only to have a good number of texans point handguns at him and wait until the police apprehended him. I'm skeptic because I don't recall seeing anything like that in the news and that story would certainly be newsworthy. do any of you texans recall the incident?>>


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that story is not news worthy, there was no assault rifle/AK-47, multiple dead bodies.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by storch
I just got back from meeting up with folks from all over the world.  the tragic event in omaha was hot topic for the last two evenings of the convention at the watering hole.  a texan related an anecdote about some guy walking into a dallas mall and racking a shotgun only to have a good number of texans point handguns at him and wait until the police apprehended him.  I'm skeptic because I don't recall seeing anything like that in the news and that story would certainly be newsworthy.  do any of you texans recall the incident?

If there is no known news story to back it up, Then you have just witnessed the birth of an urban legend.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by FrodeMk3
If there is no known news story to back it up, Then you have just witnessed the birth of an urban legend.

Storch gave birth!    Congrats!        

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by storch
I just got back from meeting up with folks from all over the world.  the tragic event in omaha was hot topic for the last two evenings of the convention at the watering hole.  a texan related an anecdote about some guy walking into a dallas mall and racking a shotgun only to have a good number of texans point handguns at him and wait until the police apprehended him.  I'm skeptic because I don't recall seeing anything like that in the news and that story would certainly be newsworthy.  do any of you texans recall the incident?

If he didn't shoot anyone then it is not a good enough story to make the American news media. Need some blood and guts to make it.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Look up the word:  analogy.  It's good to learn things.

Let me know when you are ready to discuss the situation that happened. Heck I'll even wait a bit for you to get around to it.

An analogy is only good if it relates to the original situation. In the mean time you just might want to actually read what I posted in several of the posts I made. If you have something to discuss related to the situation that happened and the discussion that was raised over it I'm all for it.

Leave the personal attacks and what if's at home please.

[john9001]

i do not like analogies, they are never as accurate as the facts.

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by FrodeMk3
If there is no known news story to back it up, Then you have just witnessed the birth of an urban legend.

It may not have been considered newsworthy in Texas but there will be a record of it if it’s true... a filed police report.

With a location and date one could find out whether the story is credible or not.

TIGERESS

[Bingolong]

Originally posted by lazs2
cripes... 88 agreed with me... where did I go wrong?   Am I getting old and soft?

bingalong..  what exactly is an "M2 kit"? are to make an M1 into a functional and reliable  full auto with M2 parts you would need the entire trigger group and bolt.  It may take 10 minutes... it may take a lot longer.  


Who cares in any case.. where you gonna buy an M2 trigger group?   In the case of full auto ak and sks guns...  most are crude.. the guns themselves are forgiving and sloppy and will take some bad amature gunsmithing but.. they won't be very reliable.

lazs

Okay Lazzette Its Bingo thanks,

The trigger housing is about 50 and the rest of the {Whole7} part "group" of rocket science, disconnect, disconnect plunger and spring, selector switch and spring, and the actuator arm, is about another 75. Easy to get to I might add. There are gun nuts all over

and here's a video for ya since you like them, of an unreliable sks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYDEI1arGZ8


It only has to work once eh?

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Maverick
An analogy is only good if it relates to the original situation.

Leave the personal attacks and what if's at home please.

The analogy did relate in a parallel manner and I clearly explained how yet you were unable to grasp it.  Our command of the English language is so disparate as to make any attempt at communicating with you both unpleasant and frustrating. I see no point in making any further attempts since I was unable to make you see even the simplest of ideas.

So, for the first time ever, I put someone on ignore. Feel free to have the last word, I'll not be troubled by them.  

[AKIron]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
The analogy did relate in a parallel manner and I clearly explained how yet you were unable to grasp it.  Our command of the English language is so disparate as to make any attempt at communicating with you both unpleasant and frustrating. I see no point in making any further attempts since I was unable to make you see even the simplest of ideas.

So, for the first time ever, I put someone on ignore. Feel free to have the last word, I'll not be troubled by them.  

I put someone on ignore once. Lasted about 2 hours.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
The analogy did relate in a parallel manner and I clearly explained how yet you were unable to grasp it.  Our command of the English language is so disparate as to make any attempt at communicating with you both unpleasant and frustrating. I see no point in making any further attempts since I was unable to make you see even the simplest of ideas.

So, for the first time ever, I put someone on ignore. Feel free to have the last word, I'll not be troubled by them.  

Still can't relate anything but a personal attack rather than argue the point I see. Ignore works for me.

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Bingolong
Before I go walk the dog  

Luckily there arnt that many of you here.
it is the case takes about 10-12 mins as already stated and a m1 just needs a m2 kit. Wanna tell me more about fires?arms?

Many of who? And what is it you would like me to tell you about fires? I'd hate to spoil some of your myths you hold so dear though.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by WWhiskey
dont know about the ak but the sks is easily converted to full in less than 10 min. and can be adjusted for rate of fire while fireing, I own 10 of these and have sold a few more (none of mine ever had this conversion  ) but i have seen it done, not sure why im telling you this other than to say i dont think you know all there is to know about this weapon, if you did you would understand that to ban any gun is stupid  it only works all or none and i must say none.

Its interesting as a lot of the AK junkies bought parts kits coming out of Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria etc.

These were 'de-milled AKs meaning they cut up the reciever.  But having bought a couple of Polish underfolder kits, you get everything but that.  The original auto fire control group etc.  All you need is a new reciever and someone to put it all back together for you.  Most folks play fair and because of required US made parts us a US made fire control group.  But if you are going to play dirty, the parts are there to make it auto.

I was thinking about it while at work today.  An undefolder AK47 when collapsed is a little over two feet long.  Not tough at all to hide under a coat while looking for a place to open fire.  A couple of 30 round mags in the pockets and unless you were looking for it, you'd never notice it until the firing started,

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Phaser11

Whenever you use a gun in self defense you will have to answer for it. It might be clear as to what happened and the local DA will not file charges. The again, if you stay and shoot the person, one of the question you will be asked and have to show (usually at the seine) how were YOU threatened/ Did YOU have a way out? Why did YOU take the law into your own hands?

It is legal in all 50 states to employ deadly force to stop someone in the act of committing a murder. Whether you are threatened or not is irrelevant. Whether or not you could escape is irrelevant.

Had anyone shot down that kid, they would not be facing criminal charges.

Lets apply some common sense thinking, ok?

The only question that seems worth thought is, how smart would it be to face off against an AK-47 with a sidearm? Not a good idea, generally.

You had better get around the shooter's flank and get close enough not to miss.  

As to Mall security; it doesn't exist. These "guards", poorly paid and not representing the finest of society, specialize in rousting mall rats and flirting with female sales clerks at the Gap. In terms of value in a shooting situation, they are nearly useless. Not completely useless, as they can serve as an example of utter futility.

What people don't seem to grasp is that if you want security, you had better provide it for yourself. There's little chance that anyone will aid you in time to save your bacon. So, you better be prepared to deal with things on your own. When it comes to most crime, your local police officer is little more than a crime statistics data miner rather than a crime fighter. Most of the time they arrive just in time to take the report.

My regards,

Widewing