Originally posted by moot
I'll just kill you like the average pilot flying a big turtle plane you are, from now on... No offense but now I'm wasting my time trying to play it fair. I could have done something else than equalize E with 75% fuel and extra ammo load in a mossie while you were already all set for flaps etc.
Writing checks my stick can't cash? You just shot any chance of me trying to play along anymore... If I'd played it straight you'd have "died the first time we met" and what would that have proven? You're just after bragging rights the same way dweeby noobs pull out stats saying they shot you down once, nevermind it being when you werent looking...
If I can't hit you from 400 it's got nothing to do with whatever super duper properties the A20's supposed to have.
This was never about you humble, I said that many times before, that it was strictly about the A20 being far below fighters' worries 1:1, but you keep repeating that me or AKAK or anyone else is in fact insinuating you suck or that it's in a belittling tone.
Now though it's obvious you can't keep your ego out of it.
Wrong, and you being so damn sure of it just shows you've shut your blinders to anything but your agenda... Cheerleading the A20 no matter what, even if it means ignoring the facts.
In fact if batfink's around you as much as he seems to be he might echo what I'm saying, that I'll fly real lax in duels if I don't see any threat or if I'm curious about what someone can do.
somebody got owned Here's the clip.
Please show me where you got "fair".You came in with alt & E went vertical immediately right into a classic positive E attack and drove me to the deck. There was nothing fair or even in your attack. You had every intent on doing just what you said you would....end of story.
This isn't personal, but you to sure seem to need to make it that. I actually have zero agenda with the A-20, I simply enjoy flying it to a suprising degree.
I've never said I could beat anybody (including you) in the A-20 vs any plane. What I've said is that I
feel like I can beat any plane/pilot in the A-20 just like I would in any other plane. When I lose a fight I look to the 85% of the encounter that was under my control not to the other guys ride. I also said that so far I have not lost a single 1 on 1 fight to either a Mossie or 110 (still true). A week ago I could have said the same thing about the pony (skat took care of that)...
Did you not come up on 200 asking "where the a-20 is"? Point blank you were looking for me. You didnt ask if it was me. You didnt look to set up a fair fight. You came in looking to stomp on me...fine.
I dont ever talk smack to anybody, and I didnt here. I simply said what I've said all along. That the A-20 is suprisngly capable in the air to air role and can but up a good fight vs all comers if it has some alt to play with. Bat told you how tough it seems to be for guys to draw a bead on the A-20 (if its flown well). Of course that cant have anything to do with me, has to be the other guy having a bad day. Every comment in this thread has been directed at me. My lack of ability, my lack of experience, my noobishness. Meanwhile I've tried to be reasonable, fair and on topic.
However at this point I simply dont see the benifit of being nice here. You didnt give me a "fair fight". You came to kill me and had every opportunity to do so and got owned. Bat and I are good friends and we spend a fair amount of time in the DA. I think he's a better stick then I am but we go back and forth most of the time. When I'm fooling around with Bat I'm well aware that regardless of the plane he's in its Bat flying it...if he could open the window on a goon he'd kill me with the .45 if I gave him an opening. So I try and treat everybody I run into with the respect I give Bat in a fight...including you.
End when it was over I wasnt demeaning at all over 200 and didnt make any comment other then saluting you for a fun fight that could have gone either way. What you didnt understand is that Bat and I readily give each other our 6. Bat knows that when he's 600 behind me he's in the most danger (and the same if I'm on him). We both feel the defender has the advantage and spend alot of time beating each other up. 70% of our fights are exactly what you saw...on the deck between the trees under 150 in the vertical...except bat and I would have gone at least another 5 minutes there (and that is not ment as a belittling comment). We both can fight just about everything in the vertical indefinately at 150 or less.
I am far from the best stick here, but I'm way above "average" or a noob. When I put stats out they are what they are. I was flying the A-20 low, slow on the deck in a heavily red enviornment. Most of my losses came in heavy traffic to Lynx, bipolar and other good pilots who can kill me regardless of what i'm in.
My question to you is simple. For a guy with a good reputation who normally seems to act with some class....why didnt you? Whats wrong with simply saying I flew the A-20 better then you thought it could be flown and you wont make the same mistake again...end of story.
Like I said it was a good fight and next time will be next time. So we reach a point where I guess you have 2 choices. If I'm an average pilot at best and the A-20 is a pitiful plane (as a fighter) and your such a good stick and an expert in both the mossie and the A-20....well why did you lose?
Or maybe, just maybe I'm a better then average stick who's spent a fair amount of time actually fighting the A-20 "as a fighter" {yes I know it isn't} and has learned that its got alot of subtle strengths that can be applied in a fight. Now if you leave it up to me I'd say you got educated. But if you want to stay nasty then I'll leave it as you got owned...this time.
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