Author Topic: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all  (Read 2676 times)

Offline wrag

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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #105 on: March 12, 2008, 07:26:42 AM »
I've been looking at the thread for awhile and I find myself continuing to come up with a question..............

Those AGAINST weapons, ya against weapons cause IMHO you really want EVERYONE to be good and play nice and actually believe the problem is weapons, need to answer a question.

hmmm.... just a sec before we go there a quick aside....

You really believe that everyone is good and nice? 

I don't!


OK  let's go there

The question follows................


Has anyone at any point in your life tried to kill you or someone near and dear to you?



OK....

that question isn't fair?

HMMMM....

OK

Has anyone at any point in your life THREATENED you, or someone near and dear to you, with serious bodily harm?



IMHO if you have NEVER been there you have NO RIGHT to decide for others!

I don't care how nice you want to be to others.  I don't care how guilty you might feel about anything. I don't care how nonjudgmental you want to be towards others.

YOU DO NOT, IMHO, HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR ALL OTHERS!

You've NEVER felt that emotion that courses through you when you realize it's on the line, you are about to die.

You've NEVER thought what people think when they are confronted with such things.

You gonna say it now? 

The yes but you can imagine it?

NO you can't imagine it!

Until you have faced it and felt it and thought during it... it's just physically, and mentally, and emotionally impossible for you to experience it.

PLEASE try to wonder how the HOO TOO and Totsi felt in Africa when they were running around choping each other up with machetes and such?

PLEASE try to wonder what it felt like, what thoughts went through their minds, as they watched the blade coming at them?

Oh wait!

But that's Africa and doesn't really affect us because we are civilized?

Never mind that we are talking about human beings.  Never mind that they can actually think and feel!  RIGHT?

Would should avoid taking about Dafar too huh?




I get tired of the weapons are bad crap!

HEY weapons are just tools.....  oh here we go, here it comes,.....

yes but people actually use weapons to hurt other people!

News flash!  THAT'S THE IDEA!

NO I don't WANT to hurt anyone!

BUT if someone is trying to HARM me or an innocent individual I would act in a manner and in accordance with their actions.

I want that ability.

Does that make me judge jury and executioner?

Perhaps.

But in a situation where there is no time, and no law enforcement near, you would prefer I let those intent on doing murder, or unwarranted serious bodily harm to myself or others to continue?

Psychopaths do exist.

Sociopaths do exist.

There are people that exist that rejoice in harming others.

You would prefer I, or an innocent individual, be killed and such survive to ease YOUR guilty conscience?

That they continue doing what they do is somehow better then you having to deal with it?

Oh WAIT... don't get involved, let the law deal with them?  Of course you will say it's too bad for their victims, but YOU don't want to get involved, don't want to have to make a judgment of them or their actions, SOOOO someone catch them and just lock the bad people away from the rest of us, RIGHT?
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #106 on: March 12, 2008, 08:05:26 AM »
angus..one race.. one tiny fraction of the population, commits over half the murders here.   of that race.. only a fraction of them commit murders and..  almost none of the murderers own a gun legally.    I guess you could cut our rate in more than half.. about like canadas.. if you just said that only white people could have guns and then executed anyone of any other race who was caught with one.

I think that we are better off the way we are doing it now tho.  maybe with less restrictions in the places where  most of the murders occur tho so that the innocent could protect themselves.

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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #107 on: March 12, 2008, 10:07:47 AM »

 
I don't.

And for a good reason. The world in general is a very dangerous place at this time......and multiple rainbows are not in the cards for the future.

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The question follows................


Has anyone at any point in your life tried to kill you or someone near and dear to you?

Yes.

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Has anyone at any point in your life THREATENED you, or someone near and dear to you, with serious bodily harm?

Yes.

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IMHO if you have NEVER been there you have NO RIGHT to decide for others!

I don't care how nice you want to be to others.  I don't care how guilty you might feel about anything. I don't care how nonjudgmental you want to be towards others.

YOU DO NOT, IMHO, HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR ALL OTHERS!

Exactly!
If others had had the right to decide for me in the cases above and was strictly enforced, I would not be here.
In one case I wouldn`t be here nor my wife and four children.

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BUT if someone is trying to HARM me or an innocent individual I would act in a manner and in accordance with their actions.

As it should be for any human being who doesn`t stick their head in the ground and cant "It doesn`t happen" and click their hills together three times.
I`ll take my right to self protection and the right to protect others over the ruby slippers any day.
I don`t look good in red.
Democracy is two wolves deciding on what to eat. Freedom is a well armed sheep protesting the vote.
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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #108 on: March 12, 2008, 11:30:01 AM »

                           I never once voted for a Politicians Ive deemed to be anti-gun rights. Really, never once. I'll sit out a vote before I'll vote for either candidate if both are anti-2nd amendment. And I sit out a lot of local votes believe me.

                           The way I see it any revisionist who wants to change the Constitution isnt worthy of my vote.
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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2008, 02:08:17 PM »
rich... you would love to talk to bingie on these boards.. he thinks that only the militia is allowed to have guns and... the militia is just the national guard.

lazs

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Re: Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2008, 08:02:27 AM »
Yep....the intardnet is a real eye opener on how many people really don`t have a hint of a clue about this issue.
A lot claim to be anti-gun period..........but continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Democracy is two wolves deciding on what to eat. Freedom is a well armed sheep protesting the vote.
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