WE ARE NOT IN A RECESSION

[john9001]

crockett, the democrats have had congress for two years, how many new nuke power plants have they pushed to be built?

[crockett]

crockett, the democrats have had congress for two years, how many new nuke power plants have they pushed to be built?

You missed the key point in that post.. How many polititions have asked for nuclear power in their states. Congress and the Senate don't really have much to do with the issue other than agreeing on regulations.

The president or a State Governor are the ones who can push for this stuff. Had Bush stood up after 9/11 and said this country needs to make major changes people would have stood behind him if he acted like a leader and led. Bush could have put together a plan and pushed real "legit" energy dependence for this country. That is what a leader would have done.

Instead he wanted to go play nation building for the neocons, push useless corn for fuel for the farm lobbyist and oil drilling for big oil. Not one thing did he push that will make us energy independent but everything he pushed makes a nice profit for big business and we will be in the same problem 20 years from now. Bush had the opportunity that no other president has ever had to change this country for the better and he failed at it miserably.

[angelsandair]

Instead he wanted to go play nation building for the neocons, push useless corn for fuel for the farm lobbyist and oil drilling for big oil. Not one thing did he push that will make us energy independent but everything he pushed makes a nice profit for big business and we will be in the same problem 20 years from now. Bush had the opportunity that no other president has ever had to change this country for the better and he failed at it miserably.

You know ethanol and carbon credit's was Al-Gore's thing right? And I really doubt that McCain or Obama will be any better, if not worse. For 8 years, I've been listening to Bush being called a Nazi, when they ask him to do something like the Ethanol thing, he'll do it, but they they go find something else to complain about. He tried to settle down with out borders, CNN and NBC called him a Nazi again and tried to have Congress pass a bill that would give them the right to get welfare or something of that nature...


I really doubt that if Al Gore was president, he would've done any better, if not, worse...

[crockett]

You know ethanol and carbon credit's was Al-Gore's thing right? And I really doubt that McCain or Obama will be any better, if not worse. For 8 years, I've been listening to Bush being called a Nazi, when they ask him to do something like the Ethanol thing, he'll do it, but they they go find something else to complain about. He tried to settle down with out borders, CNN and NBC called him a Nazi again and tried to have Congress pass a bill that would give them the right to get welfare or something of that nature...


I really doubt that if Al Gore was president, he would've done any better, if not, worse...

Of course McCain or Obama won't be any better on those issues, our entire govt is run by lobbyists. What was the last thing the govt ever did for the actual people? This is what I'm talking about, after 9/11 things could have changed it was one of those moments in time that anything could have been possiable if we had a real leader.

For the boarder patrol you are wrong on that.. After 9/11 Bush actually cut funding to the boarder patrol in his budget. They only got the funding back, after it became a Republican vs Democrat issue on TV...

[Ripsnort]

Recession is still on hold: Bad news for Bush haters. 

http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSN3043337220080731?feedType=RSS&feedName=businessNews&rpc=23&sp=true

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Expansion accelerated modestly in the second quarter as government stimulus payments helped consumers add more buying punch to the economy, a Commerce Department report on Thursday showed.

Gross Domestic Product or GDP grew at a 1.9 percent annual rate, up from a revised 0.9 percent rate in the first quarter that previously was reported as 1 percent.

That followed a 0.2 percent contraction in GDP during the final quarter of 2007 and avoided pushing the economy into back-to-back declines that would have met a popular definition of recession.

Economists surveyed by Reuters had expected a 2.0 percent rise in GDP in the second quarter.

Separately, the Labor Department reported a sharp jump in the number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless benefits -- up 44,000 though officials said some special factors were involved.

[Kaw1000]

No we are not in a recession, dollar at an all time high, plenty of high paying jobs,hardly any forecloses.
Bankruptcies almost none existent,credit card debit at a all time low, hardly anyone using the welfare system,
Prices at the pump are low, food prices are in credably low.Medical is also affordable. peoples credit rating
is the best its ever been in the history of this country!!

Most people have all kinds of money to spend...these are the best times in America!!

I could go on and on and on.

[Baitman]

No we are not in a recession, dollar at an all time high, plenty of high paying jobs,hardly any forecloses.
Bankruptcies almost none existent,credit card debit at a all time low, hardly anyone using the welfare system,
Prices at the pump are low, food prices are in credably low.Medical is also affordable. peoples credit rating
is the best its ever been in the history of this country!!

Most people have all kinds of money to spend...these are the best times in America!!

I could go on and on and on.

[Masherbrum]

what really pisses me off is sensationalism.  The media loves sensational words because it attracts the attention of the sheeple that love to repeat them.  I just heard zetanine in another thread say "we are in a recession". 

That is because Zetanine is a moron.   Don't let him get to you. Watching a fool acting as such in public, is very good entertainment. 

[Ripsnort]

No we are not in a recession, dollar at an all time high, plenty of high paying jobs,hardly any forecloses.
Bankruptcies almost none existent,credit card debit at a all time low, hardly anyone using the welfare system,
Prices at the pump are low, food prices are in credably low.Medical is also affordable. peoples credit rating
is the best its ever been in the history of this country!!

Most people have all kinds of money to spend...these are the best times in America!!

I could go on and on and on.

Your post is a perfect example of who is reporting it, and from what political perspective. As an example;
The Treasury Department says:

..The US is not in a recession, in part because economic growth continues to be positive.

'The data suggests that we're not,' Treasury Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy Phillip Swagel said in a press briefing today. He pointed to GDP, which has yet to turn negative over the last few quarters, although growth has been sluggish. Meanwhile, business investment and orders for capital goods have continued to expand. He also noted that initial measures of retail sales in May are somewhat positive, which suggests slow but sustained spending.

'Whether its a recession or slow growth, it will feel bad for Americans,' Swagel said. The Assistant Secretary acknowledged today's Labor Department report of employment data, in which non-farm payrolls fell by 49,000 in May and unemployment surged to 5.5 pct.

He said that the rise in unemployment reflects an increased labor force participation, an observation many economists have made since the report was released this morning.

'But still,' he said, 'looking at the report as a whole, it signals to us that the labor market has weakened and that the job situation has become more difficult.'

He also said that high food and energy prices are 'not good news,' but that inflation outside of those areas is 'still contained.'

Then you talk to the "other side" and they say;

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) said today, 'Additional fiscal stimulus is necessary and the President should end his opposition to Congressional efforts to respond.'

Frank is pushing for a second stimulus package that would provide direct assistance to state and local governments whose tax receipts have declined, and whose foreclosed residents require assistance. He pointed to today's employment numbers, saying that they 'confirm the fact that our economy is in serious trouble.'

Source

(Shrugs)

[Kaw1000]

Your post is a perfect example of who is reporting it, and from what political perspective. As an example;
The Treasury Department says:

Then you talk to the "other side" and they say;

Source

(Shrugs)

Look here Rip, with all due respect...all that stuff your posting is hog wash. Do you think our government is going to tell the public
How bad things are?? We are in a world of trouble and I don't care what anyone says. Its going to be the rich and the poor...its closer than you think.
  The rich will dictate how much the poor will make. Its happening already...why do you think our government let all the illegals in? They will work for less and the rich get richer the poor gets poorer. But it will not last long because it will back fire on them. The rich live for today who cares about tomorrow.
 
   

[Ripsnort]

So get richer. You live in the land of opportunity. Of course, that means putting forth effort...

[Kaw1000]

I am   and Thank Your for advice!!

[john9001]

define "recession".

[2bighorn]

we have not had that.  We are probably going to have that in the near future......HOWEVER IT HASNT HAPPENED YET!

Depends in which state you live.

[FrodeMk3]

define "recession".

There are no two economic slumps' that are the same, John. That's due to the fact that our economy has been in a state of constant change for the last 50 years, or even over a century or more if you want to go all the way back to the industrial revolution. But, just in the last 50 years since the end of WWII, we've gone from having a large manufacturing base to being over half a nation of service-providers. It's our downfall looking us in the face, too.