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Offline Bronk

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #135 on: September 30, 2008, 04:50:07 AM »
Angus, you really need to put your sig back up. 
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #136 on: September 30, 2008, 06:28:38 AM »
How nice of you to remember, I hadn't noticed. BRB :D
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #137 on: September 30, 2008, 06:58:14 AM »
Oh, I was tempted to use Mölders quote. He also added that the Spitfire was a hopeless fighter (due to the carb-cutout), however he was soon spanked hard by one flown by Adolph Malan. (The S-African killer who would lead an agression from inferior altitude all the time)
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #138 on: September 30, 2008, 11:09:19 AM »
What Angus put:
That's why the 109 had the slats, - as Gunther Rall once told me, he didn't prefer them in combat, because in a rough turn they would throw off his aim, but WITHOUT them the landing would have been unacceptably high.

What I put in reponse:
"From your logic, the spits bigger wings were ONLY for landing."

What Angus put in response:
How on earth did you come to that.

ARE YOU BIASED OR JUST STUPID? (SEE BELOW, PROOF)

MOre examples of your logic, could be shown in the game:
-Narrow undercarraige was only for crashing, not rolling.
-Wing slats were for landing and messing up aim.
-wing slats were not turning, not flaring.

And you pretend to be neutral

Thanks Furball for the info:
I didn't check the whole list, I hopped around and found...
Angus in tour 23 (dec 01-jan02)
Hurri IIC... 39 kills
Seafire..... 24 kills
Yak 9U..... 24 kills
Spit IX..... 18 kills
LVTA4...... 16 kills
B-26........ 15 kills
TBM-3...... 09 kills
F4U-1C..... 06 kill
C205........ 05 kills
A6M5b...... 04 kills
etc etc,
NO KILLS IN A 190
NO KILLS IN A 109
NO KILLS IN A 110
So Angus and LYNX both HATE THE LUFTWAFFE, PROVEN!

STOP PURPOSELY MESSING UP THIS THREAD!
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if the BoB is proof the spitty was better, then the Battle of Dieppe is proof the 109 was better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid
Shane said in game 'oh the nazi kid' referring to me...
Lynx got in it saying 'yawn' and then calling me 'tw@' again...
I got chat

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #139 on: September 30, 2008, 11:36:58 AM »
Player X did not kill in model Y in tour Z therefore they are a model Y hater.  That's a weak argument.  Actually "argument" is being too generous.  Weak implication would be more accurate.
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Offline Motherland

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #140 on: September 30, 2008, 11:38:18 AM »
Quote from: Schlowy on September 30, 2008, 11:09:19 AM
What Angus put:
That's why the 109 had the slats, - as Gunther Rall once told me, he didn't prefer them in combat, because in a rough turn they would throw off his aim, but WITHOUT them the landing would have been unacceptably high.

What I put in reponse:
"From your logic, the spits bigger wings were ONLY for landing."

What Angus put in response:
How on earth did you come to that.
The Spitfire's wings did not cause instability during the fight like the 109's slats did.
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #141 on: September 30, 2008, 12:14:48 PM »
It is not the slats causing instability, it is the pilot who pulls his stick back ;) Without the slats getting deployed the wing(s) would already be stalling. Slats are just fine when one gets used to them. There have been and still are slats in many planes.
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #142 on: September 30, 2008, 01:40:58 PM »
Schlowy, you quoted one tour from years ago.
(Actually I had 2 other names...hehe)
"NO KILLS IN A 190
NO KILLS IN A 109
NO KILLS IN A 110

Yep, the Spits caught me :D
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #143 on: September 30, 2008, 01:52:58 PM »
No, Angus, I caught you.
You claimed all this and all that, but never stated your bias.

Btw, thanks for bringing up 10 years ago!
I flew spits in game for two weeks, when Princess Diana died...
Btw, MANY ENGLISH BELIEVE SHE WAS MURDERED BY THE SAME SECRET SERVICE...
THAT PROBABLY GOT THIS PLANE CRASHED. BUSTED!
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if the BoB is proof the spitty was better, then the Battle of Dieppe is proof the 109 was better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid
Shane said in game 'oh the nazi kid' referring to me...
Lynx got in it saying 'yawn' and then calling me 'tw@' again...
I got chat

Offline Charge

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #144 on: September 30, 2008, 02:19:35 PM »
Skuzzy could as well close this thread now.

-C+
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #145 on: September 30, 2008, 02:24:56 PM »
Than I hand my hats off to the British intelligence who also caused the two recent (year 2008) crashes in Germany where the pilots were German.
Seriously, you are completely full of vegetables in yer head Schlowy....

And for the Bias (which I often get accused on, since I dally debating people like you),  - I was actually in contact with Rall because of the slats. Another story. Anyway, his words were much stronger than what is written...

Blauk, I tried a slatted plane this summer. Delightful. And for landing, ohh yes.
However, when I yanked it a wee, the nose went off center.
Rall said that if you were in a ROUGH turn, it would go outboard (if I recall right). So the aircraft basically stabilizes itself quite roughly, but you have lost your turning and your aim.
I really really am going to ask more about this, because actually trying opened my eyes to what he meant.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #146 on: September 30, 2008, 02:26:23 PM »
Quote from: Charge on September 30, 2008, 02:19:35 PM
Skuzzy could as well close this thread now.

-C+

Sure?
Let's say I'll duke it out with him  :t
Furbie, ready as wingman  :O
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #147 on: September 30, 2008, 02:40:11 PM »
Quote from: Schlowy on September 30, 2008, 01:52:58 PM
No, Angus, I caught you.
You claimed all this and all that, but never stated your bias.

Btw, thanks for bringing up 10 years ago!
I flew spits in game for two weeks, when Princess Diana died...
Btw, MANY ENGLISH BELIEVE SHE WAS MURDERED BY THE SAME SECRET SERVICE...
THAT PROBABLY GOT THIS PLANE CRASHED. BUSTED!
GET SOME AIR.
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #148 on: September 30, 2008, 02:43:39 PM »
who?
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Re: Black 6 crash cause?
« Reply #149 on: September 30, 2008, 02:44:28 PM »
Quote from: Angus on September 30, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
who?

Not you. Thy guy with the voices in his head. :lol
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