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Offline moot

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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2009, 08:12:53 PM »
To fix that stupid nose bounce, you need to get Il2's stupid HOTAS configuration interface to display the joystick.  You can do this by changing (IIRC) the "preferred controller" assignment in Windows, or futz with some stupid cfg text files in Il2's directory.  Then you get to have the stupid planes do what you tell em to without any nosebounce in Il2's stupid FM and cream your shorts cause the graphics are so stupidly nicer than what you're used to.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2009, 08:48:39 PM »
To fix that stupid nose bounce, you need to get Il2's stupid HOTAS configuration interface to display the joystick.  You can do this by changing (IIRC) the "preferred controller" assignment in Windows, or futz with some stupid cfg text files in Il2's directory.  Then you get to have the stupid planes do what you tell em to without any nosebounce in Il2's stupid FM and cream your shorts cause the graphics are so stupidly nicer than what you're used to.

Yeah, I've long since done that Moot...thanks for the tip though...sorry, I don't think I'll be getting QUITE that excited about it.  ;)
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2009, 08:42:50 AM »
Whats so gamey about it? WW-ll pilots never put a phone book under their arse to sit up higher?

Sitting on a phone book or a USGI seat cushion to raise the pilot up so he could see a bit better is one thing, changing the mouting position of the gunnary sight on the dashboard by use of some funky chicken dance moves is another.  The LOS for those guns sights, phone book or no phone book, were the same.  I'd be willing to bet that only the shorter pilots used any type of riser, there is only so much room before a tall guy's head is going to nudge the canopy.

Like I said before to use the word "gamey" in this game you have to address a whole lot of gameplay before you get to my tip of the week. But go ahead and pose as a purist anyways since its always good for a laugh.

Frankly your not getting much of an edge over any opponent whose worth 2 cents in a fighter. You cant turn the Mossie any better, cant climb any faster, cant bomb any better, cant fly any faster. You can simply look out the window better. And all of you have fiddled with your computer game views vis-a-vis your joysticks until you got the result you want, which is already completely unrealistic. In the actual airplane you got what was delivered and that was the end of it, "minus the phone book".

Sooo.... just because AH2 is already "gamey", doing a manipulation of the gun sight to give a bigger FOV makes it laughable when someone says this "hidden feature" is even that much more gamey???

Listening to some of these poseurs gives me a giggle however. Therev are some who would think this is cheating where'as upping a Mossie and repeatedly killing helpless airplanes on the runway as fine game play. :huh Want to see something funny? Watch a dozen of these heros slaughter helpless airplanes, "of course while a nearby town is untouched", for 1/2 hour and then watch what happens when a few high cons come in from an adjacent enemy airfield. :lol Its like a flock of chickens getting kicked. They all run for home, "of course no gas or ammo", in order to land their kills and if you hang around, all of a sudden, your all alone.  :rofl

So "gamey" in this game is a word used way to often. It should be saved more for types of game play instead of where you set your hat-1 views.

Actually saving and brining up your E6B is a problem. If you are on a strike mission you need it up and if you bring it down, then up again, the map defaults  your airplane to the center again, which makes you need to move your cursor again. I solved this by making the E6B smaller, putting it in low left of the screen, and zooming out on the map so I can see the entire route. The compass helps a lot too. I always pay atttention to my compass heading.

This tip is no panacea for all the other aspects of successful Mossie flying. It doesnt change anything on the airplane and doesnt really give you an edge against fighters. It just lets you look out the window better, a thing all of you have already done with your views anyways.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2009, 05:35:17 PM »
Gosh Loon I actually feel guilty now with my phony little sight, in my phony little cartoon airplane.

You couldnt begin to comprehend the guilt.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2009, 10:36:43 PM »

Mouse pointer should vanish after a few seconds of inactivity.
 

I cant possible get away with saying what I want about people who participate in the exploitative crap such as this..

but this pic sort of reflects my feelings


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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2009, 01:00:10 AM »
I can't help to think its an exploit.

This is breaking the spirit of the game in my opion.  HTC should make the mouse cursor disappear after it hasn't moved for ~15 seconds.

It's because they "need the exploit" and without it, they still are inept and lazy.  It's pathetic that this Community is so hell bent on flying for score you "have to keep coming up with more gaming the game BS" and spew it to the masses.   

Everybody does it. You give an edge if you don't do it.

I completely disagree.  I'd rather have integrity and honesty before "cashing in on some BS" of moving the gunsight.   

To all:  Mind you the talk evolved from "changing the height of the gunsight, to quickly being called "moving the head positions".    If people cannot even be honest with themselves, don't bother posting.   
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2009, 01:12:20 AM »
The point is that you're letting those dweebs cash in on the exploit at your loss. What good reason is there to let some dweeb crutch his way to a win over my fair tactics? I'm a step ahead of them and don't need the magic cursor anymore. I know where the bullets go.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2009, 07:41:39 AM »
The point is that you're letting those dweebs cash in on the exploit at your loss. What good reason is there to let some dweeb crutch his way to a win over my fair tactics? I'm a step ahead of them and don't need the magic cursor anymore. I know where the bullets go.

I lose nothing.   I am not only probably better than those that used/need it, but I keep my honesty/integrity.   The latter means more to me than anything.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2009, 08:09:51 AM »
This whole thread is just sad. Can't say I'm surprised to find Moot championing exploits though.

Pathetic.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2009, 09:38:13 AM »
Hehe.. What exploit?  I don't use it.  I'm saying you'd be giving the 733t gamers an edge if you didn't do it too. I'm not championing anything.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2009, 10:24:23 AM »
Hehe.. What exploit?  I don't use it. 

So you don't look above the gun sight when shooting anymore?
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2009, 10:34:11 AM »
I look around the bars all the time. It's mandatory to keep SA and guide the nose to the snapshot in the Ta152. I know where the bullets are going. It works just like spider sense.  I know when the target is in the bullseye.  I know where the nose is pointing. So, effectively, I'm shooting without a gunsight.  If that's an exploit...

Anyway.. I find it ridiculous to make a big deal out of this, even if it's admittedly really cheesy to go thru the trouble of a gunsight cursor instead of actually learning to not need that crutch, when there's everything else that's gamey about the game.  Neg G redout threshold, no head bobbing or shifting, Linda Blair head freedom, etc etc.  Do you guy also restrict your head positions to realistic spots, e.g. no further than you could crane your neck while pulling into blackouts?

And like I said.  If you really want to get rid of this loophole, HTC could make the fwd head position much more susceptible to Gs.  Make it bob and shift all over in maneuvers.  No more cheapo glass cockpit.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2009, 11:06:43 AM »
Yes that's an exploit, and I find it fascinating that you think "gaming the game" somehow is HTC's fault. If by not putting my "head" outside the airplane I give you an advantage, then that's an advantage I'm more than willing to give you for the satisfaction of knowing that at least I'm not so pathetic that I have to game the game to get kills.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2009, 12:30:46 PM »
You're incredible.. You come up with the most erroneous interpretations.. I never even considered that it's HTC's fault.  You can't put your head outside the airplane. The only plane that could do this was the F6F.  And I don't need to game the game to get kills.. If inability to do that is what's pathetic.. You're certainly more pathetic than me.

What a stupid discussion.
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Re: Sight tactic for Mossies, 163s...ect
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2009, 12:48:38 PM »
And I don't need to game the game to get kills..

The why do you do it?
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