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Offline minke

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2009, 05:13:23 PM »
the PC gaming industry is aimed at a 13-year-old market

I disagree, the '13 year old' market is (and always has been) the games console. HTC gave a fantastic opportunity to download the beta to help iron out the creases and i daresay there will be some more patches to correct outstanding issues. I hope you used the time in beta well to look for potential snags, because its the community that look for and help find bugs,and make the game what it is.

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2009, 06:03:09 PM »
They complain about bad framerate or playability and want to change to this ´Massive´-Multiplayer single-digit FPS pile of %&&/# called WW2Online?

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See you all back in a month  :aok


Well, some of them have already downloaded it and experimented with it, and apparently it is running better on their systems than Aces High is in its current revision.

I'm not having any major problems with the new version of Aces High myself, compared to others.   My frame rate used to be around 55-60, and now fluctuates between 28 and 48, which while perhaps not ideal, is still playable.   I may well need to invest in a better video card, which will also require a new power supply for my PC also.  I think that I can do this at Best Buy for about $160

Why do so many PC makers put such cheap, low rated power supplies in their computers, anyway??  Any decent video card totally overloads these standard factory power supplies.

If our squad does end up leaving, along with the other squads in our alliance, it is going to be a big blow to the Knights.  The Rooks and Bishops will be overrunning the Knight's country for sure.   And just about everyone in our squads seems so disillusioned now with Aces High.   Everyone seems ready to try something different and new.

I'm really not sure if there is another Knights squad that I would even be interested in joining.  Which means I might even have to resort to considering becoming a Rook or Bishop, if I decide to stay.   :uhoh

I really like the guys that I play with currently, so I am certainly between a rock and a hard place.  The cooperative team play of this game is what appeals to me the most.  I really don't want to start all over after having established myself within a good group.

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2009, 06:27:39 PM »
Well said - coming from someone that obviously has NO problems with the game.  NICE!  HOORAY FOR ME, to hell with you right?

lol - yea I run this game fine...but feel bad for those frustrated by their loss of ability to play.  Pretty sad you dont.  But something tells me you do, are frustrated too and possibly just wish the complaints were worded better?  At least I hope you think this.
I do have some issues with the game, it still doesn't run like I'd like. And I'm sorry some folks can't get their rigs to work on it. But we all knew this update was coming and some of us looked into what was needed to make the game work, i.e. beta and forums. Some did not.

I think the OP was rude in his post, not to mention the title of it. So I just spoke what was on my mind at the time. :salute
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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2009, 06:36:49 PM »
I realize the PC gaming industry is aimed at a 13-year-old market, where waiting until Chrstmas or even next week for one's shiny new toys is an eternity beyond human endurance, but one might hope AH2 would be an exception.



Like most of your comments in this thread, this comment is also not true. 

Facts:
69% of US "heads of households" play computer or video (console) games
The average age of a US gamer is 33 years old
31% of US gamers are under the age of 18
44% of the US gamers are between the ages of 18 and 49 years old
25% of US gamers are 50 years or older
The average age of the most frequent computer/video game purchaser is over 40 years of age


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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2009, 09:33:57 PM »
Ummm... wouldn't the people demanding the upgrade, ready for prime time or not, be the "I want it NOW!" kidz? To hear some of 'em talk you'd think the world would have ended if the update had taken another two weeks. IMO a little patience and a less buggy release would have been the adult way to proceed. I realize the PC gaming industry is aimed at a 13-year-old market, where waiting until Chrstmas or even next week for one's shiny new toys is an eternity beyond human endurance, but one might hope AH2 would be an exception.

As for what I want... yeah, since I'm paying NOW, I *do* want a game that runs NOW. I think that's quite reasonable. If the game doesn't work, why should people pay for it? You have a strange sense of how business arrangements should work, but you have a strange sense of a lot of things, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Well it's a good thing you don't run this business, there would NEVER be an update.

This update has been coming for ...as far as we know from "announcements" for over 7 months. January was the first hint of the new terrain engine. Just from that first picture most people should have figured out that it was going to be a major overhaul. Who knows how long HTC has really been working on it. The announcement at the convention about putting CT on hold and dedicating their resources to the main game was in October, 10 months ago. Yup, looks like they "rushed" this one out  :rolleyes:

Had they had more people testing in the open beta maybe they would have had a wider cross section of machine type as the test bed. Maybe they would have found and fixed more issues before the release, but to many didn't both to try it. They didn't have time, they did want to mess with it, they just wanted to play. Milk running a couple dozen bases in the beta arena wouldn't boost them up on the scoreboard.

This version hasn't even been "live" a week yet and people are taking about quitting..... talk about "want it now". We waited 10 months for an update, the complainers can't wait a couple weeks to iron out a few problems.

I'm a realist. I KNOW I have to upgrade my computer, so I do it a bit at a time. Some ram here, that new video card that just went on sale there, a bigger LCD. $10-15 a week put aside for "entertainment" doesn't hurt all that much. I got shut out once long ago when my computer couldn't handle a new version, never again. Also I KNOW that nothings perfect, and software isn't ever going to come close to THAT mark. I EXPECT bugs. Even a box game will give some people trouble, not every computer is the same. There is no way to expect it will run perfect every time, on every machine. Thats what "beta testing" is all about. Unfortunately, most people didn't care, or couldn't be bothered. I ran every version, and put the game through everything I could think of. I wanted to see how my computer would handle it as much as I wanted to see how well the game was. When the game went live, I was ready.

The main issue here is damming the game before they have a chance to settle it. If the market was only computers set up like mine, there isn't a single bug. However, seeing as there are thousands of different combinations out there they couldn't foresee everything. Give them some time to getting it straitened out. 

Offline Hajo

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2009, 10:43:57 AM »
OK....I'll add my two cents.

1.)  Everyone was informed when the Beta Version was offered.  A Topic was made on the BBS with stickies telling us how to handle reporting
      any issues we may have.  If you knew a new version was going to be presented soon it would have been a great idea to d'load the new
    version and try it.  Along with that you should have posted any issues you might have had in the BBS topic on the Beta release.

2.) Those that did d'load and try the Beta in general found that they had issues.  It didn't matter if it was a high end gaming machine or an older PC.
     Most had an issue of one kind or another.

3.) Those that design the game can not correct any problems without a.) knowing what problems there are.
                                                                                               b.) having people test and report the problems.
                                                                                               c.) people listing their system and components that are having problems.
                                                                                               d.) running dxdiag and posting or sending to HTC to have a look see
                                                                                                    at where the problems may be.

4.) Patience.  A good number of us have been here since the start of Aces High and have experienced past upgrades.  We do know that any or all issues
     will be resolved.  In most cases if not all, everyone was able to continue with Aces High.


5.) This is my thought.  A great number of us continue or have continued to upgrade our PCs in the last 10+ years.
    At some point in time everyone will also have to do the same. An older PC, a laptop etc. will come to a point where
    it's abilities will hit the wall.  I could give an analogy but I think you get my meaning.  It has been my experience that
    HTC has done far more then any other Company of this nature to insure that the greater majority of players will be able
    to play Aces High with their present equipment.

I have a very high end gaming machine that is new.  I had issues.  I posted my issues and got responses.  I talked with Skuzzy
on the phone and got EMails answered also.  HTC is doing more then you could possibly imagine to help everyone.  This
issue will come to pass I assure you of that.  I also assure you that from past experience that HTC will do everything they
possibly can to correct any issues ALL may have.  They have done so in the past.  They will do so in the future.

All PCs are different in some ways.  No matter if you have a similar system to so and so what do you have on your PC that is
running in the background.  Do you have Adaware to rid your system of tracking cookies that could be bogging your system down?
Do you have software that can cleanout old registry entries and clean up your registry? Adaware is free.  You can find registry software
like registry mechanic and regcure free to clean up your registry and compress it to run smoother.  You may have software booting up
with your system such as Norton Anti-Virus that will just clobber your PCs performance.  Are you using Windows firewall?  If you have
Windows firewall running disable it...and disable windows automatic updater also.  There are many other things of that nature that you
should look at as a possible problems....even task scheduler.  HTC doesn't know what you have for software or what you boot up when
you start your PC and then try to play Aces High.  There are programs again free that can help you shut down services before playing Aces High
such as FSAutostart or Alacrity.  They are also free.  Use them.  Then try Aces High again.

Have patience!  :aok

<phew> sorry for the long post
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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2009, 10:54:21 AM »
get ready for a big batch of new names as the hissy fitters trickle back into the game.....
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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2009, 10:58:57 AM »
Patience to all, I have been tweaking and adjusting since the update came out.  I have just now gotten to a comfortable balance between eye-candy and frame rate.  I am confident that we have not seen the last fixemup patch from HTC.  It takes time folks, hang in there... :)
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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2009, 01:30:09 PM »
still here?

Kicks Yeager in the six  :lol


Like most of your comments in this thread, this comment is also not true. 

Facts:
69% of US "heads of households" play computer or video (console) games
The average age of a US gamer is 33 years old
31% of US gamers are under the age of 18
44% of the US gamers are between the ages of 18 and 49 years old
25% of US gamers are 50 years or older
The average age of the most frequent computer/video game purchaser is over 40 years of age


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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2009, 06:05:32 PM »
I downloaded it and tried it. FAIL. I chose to wait till they fixed it. Let the others be guinea pigs. Unfortunately it was released well before it was fixed due to folks in a hurry to see it.

I prefer to see something more than Microsoft type releases. I realize this is hard to do because of so many types of hardware/software mixes out in the real world. I still don't think you should be berating folks for posting their opinion. After all you posted yours.

Exactamundo.

Customers are always beta testers. I'm getting 60 fps and that's all I need.3rd patch fixed most stuttering. You can't see over 24 fps anyway so what's the difference?

I also cut back to 512 texture size. This helped alot.

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2009, 06:07:24 PM »
Discoed 4 times today. Game running like crap when I'm not discoed, stops and starts so bad "stuttering" doesn't even begin to describe it. I've got detailed terrain off and my frame rate is around 60 most of the time, so it isn't that, and anyway this didn't happen all week, only since the latest patch. A couple of others I talked to got discoed multiple times today as well.

Work the bugs out, HTC, or revert to the old version. I'll tolerate the crappy graphics if others want to have their chrome, but I ain't paying $14.95 to stare at a black screen.  :mad:

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2009, 06:14:20 PM »
If I buy a ticket to a movie, I want to sit back and watch a movie, not to be told what I have to do to the projector in order to make it work. If I don't get that it isn't a "whine" or "crying," it's a legitimate complaint.


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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »
I have literally no sympathy for YOU or ANYONE ELSE this shallow or selfish.   

There will be no shallow shellfishness here!!



Say shallow selfishness 10x fast.

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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2009, 06:39:31 PM »
Try Unique New York or Toy Boat 5 times fast! Do It!
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Re: New patch = pile o' crap
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2009, 07:51:48 PM »
Like most of your comments in this thread, this comment is also not true. 

Facts:
69% of US "heads of households" play computer or video (console) games
The average age of a US gamer is 33 years old
31% of US gamers are under the age of 18
44% of the US gamers are between the ages of 18 and 49 years old
25% of US gamers are 50 years or older
The average age of the most frequent computer/video game purchaser is over 40 years of age


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woot! I'll be 32 before the end of august.....I'm finally almost an average gamer :rock  There's something to think about Mensa!!!! ;)
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