What plane do want to learn how to fight with?

[A8HatTrick]

but didn't the p38 produce more american aces than any other aircraft?

Yes, but the quality of pilots that the P38 faced where wretched compared to the P51B, Early Spits, P47 in Europe and Africa and the P40, F4F and other early Navy variants of the F4U in the pacific faced.

By the time the 39 became mainstream front line fighter, they where killing 18 year old kids with 20 hours flying time at best.

But it was and still is a BEAST of an aircraft, just the ACE argument does not hold much water.

[Shuffler]

.... just the ACE argument does not hold much water.

Try to tell that to someone who put their life on the line..... just so you could say that. 

[CAP1]

Yes, but the quality of pilots that the P38 faced where wretched compared to the P51B, Early Spits, P47 in Europe and Africa and the P40, F4F and other early Navy variants of the F4U in the pacific faced.

By the time the 39 became mainstream front line fighter, they where killing 18 year old kids with 20 hours flying time at best.

But it was and still is a BEAST of an aircraft, just the ACE argument does not hold much water.

i would differ in the PTO.

[Shuffler]

Well back on topic...

I'm really not much interested in any other fighter in AH. In RL I love the P-38, the Corsair, and the Mustang.

There are a lot of really great planes from that era though, on all sides.

[CAP1]

Well back on topic...

I'm really not much interested in any other fighter in AH. In RL I love the P-38, the Corsair, and the Mustang.

There are a lot of really great planes from that era though, on all sides.

they have pudgyIII on display at mcguire afb. on one hand, i love seeing her there as i pull in. stunningly beautiful aircraft. on the other hand, it makes me sad, as she should be in the air.

 either way, my rl favs

p38, p51, p47. 

in ah.......p38 only.

[Soulyss]

Personally I'd love to be better in the P-38 (all models) and the P-39D.  In more general terms I'm saying I would just like to get better period, if your core skill set is solid I think any plane or model can be adapted to with a couple weeks worth of flying.  While plane versus plane performance does make up a significant part of the equation player/pilot skill is even more significant.  I know that if I'm flying my P-39D and I run into a late war plane in a one versus one situation I have to fly better than the other guy because there are probably very few parts of the flight envelope I can count on for an advantage. If my opponent knows what he/she is doing I definitely have my hands full.

[Guppy35]

Yes, but the quality of pilots that the P38 faced where wretched compared to the P51B, Early Spits, P47 in Europe and Africa and the P40, F4F and other early Navy variants of the F4U in the pacific faced.

By the time the 39 became mainstream front line fighter, they where killing 18 year old kids with 20 hours flying time at best.

But it was and still is a BEAST of an aircraft, just the ACE argument does not hold much water.

Not sure what you are referring to in pilot quality that 38 drivers faced.  The 38 was in the MTO in combat against the LW long before the 51B.  They obviously faced the best the Japanse had alongside the P40s, 39s, F4Fs etc in the Pacific.  I'd suggest a review of the history again to get the dates of service accurate.

[OOZ662]

I'd like to learn how to actually handle the Dora...instead of the lossless BnZ tactic.

[morfiend]

Personally,I'd like to learn the Me 410 or maybe a MossieMk18,then again it would be real nice to learn the 109 g14 as or g6 as.

 Oh right we dont have those A/C yet!!!! Hmmm maybe we need to badger HTC with whines about new A/C and updates to existing A/C as it seems they read and respond to these forums. Something unique about AHII is the fact that they do listen and read what the players have to say,wont find that in many other games.....

 Of course I was joking about the planes I'd like to learn,what I really need is to learn to shoot with any plane,I cant hit anything unless I see D0 on the distance counter and even then it's a 50/50 chance.

   

[Pudgie]

For me it's the Spit V & IX.

I prefer the IX over all other Mk's.

Just started messing around w/ the 109 F4 lately.

 

[boomerlu]

I never said anything about "most aces". I was just stating a point. 

Woops. Mistook you for CAP1 - your avatars are so similar .

I'd like to learn how to actually handle the Dora...instead of the lossless BnZ tactic.

I'm just starting to figure this out - developed a rolling reversal I'm going to test out. Before I would simply run and roll to help keep myself alive.

Other options include standard E-fighting techniques like roping. Turn fighting in the Dora is a mistake though. Your best options are the "lossless BnZ tactic" and basic energy fighting.

[CAP1]

Woops. Mistook you for CAP1 - your avatars are so similar .
I'm just starting to figure this out - developed a rolling reversal I'm going to test out. Before I would simply run and roll to help keep myself alive.

Other options include standard E-fighting techniques like roping. Turn fighting in the Dora is a mistake though. Your best options are the "lossless BnZ tactic" and basic energy fighting.

ya...that was me. what i meant to say, was that the ole 38 o doom produced the top american aces of ww2. 

[Spikes]

They fought at high alts, where the P-47 was decidedly faster and had a competitive thrust/weight ratio, they fought as teams, and lets face it, most kills in WWII were a matter of "I flew up behind him, he never saw me, I hosed him down."

Very true...if we didn't have the big "Look at me I'm a "###" shoot me!" icon over the enemy's heads it'd be much different, many planes would go unseen.

[Shuffler]

Very true...if we didn't have the big "Look at me I'm a "###" shoot me!" icon over the enemy's heads it'd be much different, many planes would go unseen.

Many still do 

[CAP1]

Very true...if we didn't have the big "Look at me I'm a "###" shoot me!" icon over the enemy's heads it'd be much different, many planes would go unseen.

you'd be surprised at how many planes some of us still don't see.....even with the tags. it amazes me when i watch my films.