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Offline Rich46yo

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Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« on: September 23, 2009, 07:18:27 PM »
Heres the video of my vertical dive technique on high value GVs like Tigers. http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/?action=view&current=vertical-tiger.flv

I have the original AH film on file but I dont want to embarrass the Tiger driver. I dont think he cheating accusation was mean spirited as much as it was surprise. I have taken out many a tank in the middle of flak like this. The trick is to aim where the tank is going to be and then get one 1 second burst into his weak top armor. Then pull up, often blacked out, and hug terrain maintaining your E and using terrain to cover you from the flak.

Last month I started a thread describing it. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,273214.msg3418746.html#msg3418746
So this is not a new tactic. I have been practicing it for awhile.

I have the original film the Tiger driver can ask me for in PM but I wont mention his name in open forum. Its not my style. :salute
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Offline Bear76

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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 07:27:24 PM »
I been doing it that way for years :huh

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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 07:47:02 PM »
That's good flying Rich!!!   :aok
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 08:24:39 PM »
Ok, here is my problem with this.

I went offline, tried it and realized that this is not something you actually "do".

The AOA and speed at which you are falling vertically with any combo of flaps and throttle is either going to put you nose first in the dirt, stalled out on the pull, or if performed correctly, attempting to stick and rudder your crosshairs over a moving tank and pulling off a 1-1.5 second burst prior to pulling out with your wheels kicking up mud.

So whats my problem?????

Practice.............. this can only be done with practice, and if I wanted to work, I wouldnt be playing a game  :rock
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 10:32:38 PM »
How do you possibly see them from that alt? When im GV hunting i have to have ground vis on detail range all the way out and still have to be less than 1.5k to see an icon for GV's on the ground.

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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 07:44:10 AM »
whats wrong with that film. that's how i been doing it for years, with tigers tho i normally use a Hurri2D
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 09:39:14 AM »
How do you possibly see them from that alt? When im GV hunting i have to have ground vis on detail range all the way out and still have to be less than 1.5k to see an icon for GV's on the ground.

WTHeck. I posted all that and it wouldnt take cause I sent a PM within 30 seconds?

Heres the full speed film. http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/?action=view&current=TT-Tiger-fullspeed.flv

Oh, and I have look forward and Look down mapped on my X-52 in IL2 mode so its very simple to look down right under the airplane. And thats normally when I drop with this tactic. This particular time I was a little off angled and had to use a lot of control to turn back into the Tiger.
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 11:26:10 AM »
I really fail to see how this impresses anyone.
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 11:38:16 AM »
I really fail to see how this impresses anyone.

I don't think it's supposed to, and that's the point.


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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 01:34:38 PM »
I really fail to see how this impresses anyone.

There always one isnt there?
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 01:43:26 PM »
I been doing it that way for years :huh

Really? With what aircraft?
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 01:48:16 PM »
Really? With what aircraft?

Don't know about Bear, but the Hurri IID is capable of killing Tigers that way.
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 02:21:42 PM »
How do you possibly see them from that alt? When im GV hunting i have to have ground vis on detail range all the way out and still have to be less than 1.5k to see an icon for GV's on the ground.

If you initially find your target by icon, flip your bionic eye on(we all have them attatched to our head gear)....that is zoom in on target and follow that way. You may not see the icon but you can see the target.

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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 02:28:12 PM »
There always one isnt there?

What? One who reads the title for what it is? :)
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Re: Ya, I can really do it without cheating.
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 02:39:42 PM »
Gratz, you can do the easiest thing in game. :aok Someone give me a medal to pin on this mans chest. :salute



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