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Offline CAP1

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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #135 on: October 20, 2009, 03:36:13 PM »
Quote from: crazyivan on October 20, 2009, 03:25:46 PM
I had somone named Sharps ram my p-40 the other night! :D

well!!

that's whatcha git fer flyin that heap!!

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seriously....are you one of those guys that can take a p40, and embarrass most uber planes?  ;) :D
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #136 on: October 20, 2009, 03:42:26 PM »
I dont understand how you try to reason this at all. Yeager says he flys to survive.... but he says he will take a HO(which is a 50/50 of coming out on top). Alot of these other guys say its "part of the game" yet you look at the better sticks in the game going at it in a tournamnet where HO arent allowed, and in KOTH where its allowed you dont normally see a person who HOs come out on top. I just cant figure out why these would be your arguements unless your just ignorant to the finer points of ACM
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #137 on: October 20, 2009, 03:51:34 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on October 20, 2009, 03:36:13 PM
well!!

that's whatcha git fer flyin that heap!!

  :noid :bolt:

seriously....are you one of those guys that can take a p40, and embarrass most uber planes?  ;) :D
No I just take it into harms way after afew beers. :cheers: :bolt:

Yeah, Sometimes avoiding thr HO shots is a game in itself! Have to say some of the best fights I've had were against 109s. Working for the 6. :airplane:
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #138 on: October 20, 2009, 03:52:24 PM »
We are missing the bigger argument here; everyone who kills me cheats. Now that extends to a great range of players and HT needs to investigate this. Or is it just me? :joystick:
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #139 on: October 20, 2009, 03:53:49 PM »
Quote from: A8Hunter on October 20, 2009, 03:52:24 PM
We are missing the bigger argument here; everyone who kills me cheats. Now that extends to a great range of players and HT needs to investigate this. Or is it just me? :joystick:

You fly a spixteen... you don't count.  :neener:
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #140 on: October 20, 2009, 03:54:29 PM »
HO is great if you have the losing cards in your hand and you can "double or nothing" with your HO. If you can beat the opponent without risking a HO, then agreeing to HO is simply stupid. It still takes 2 to HO and either one can decide to break it. Usually the one with more to lose (energy, angles, position, altitude, virtual prestige, whatever) avoids the HO or then both just decide to gun it out.

What is so complicated about the whole HO issue? Forget it already  :furious
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #141 on: October 20, 2009, 03:57:46 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on October 20, 2009, 03:36:13 PM
well!!

that's whatcha git fer flyin that heap!!

  :noid :bolt:

seriously....are you one of those guys that can take a p40, and embarrass most uber planes?  ;) :D


P40 is uber
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #142 on: October 20, 2009, 04:01:08 PM »
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #143 on: October 20, 2009, 04:02:58 PM »
Quote from: crazyivan on October 20, 2009, 03:51:34 PM
No I just take it into harms way after afew beers. :cheers: :bolt:

Yeah, Sometimes avoiding thr HO shots is a game in itself! Have to say some of the best fights I've had were against 109s. Working for the 6. :airplane:

the funny thing with me......i can't hit poop from dead 6. sometimes i can barley see the dam thing. then top it off with me having time to aim.....i do much better when i have those fleeting shots with the con crossing my nose, i fire off a burst, i may hit him.

 that's why when the 190 drivers start their rolling thing, i wait.,....when they look like they're about to get big, i fire a burst.....when they're runnin straight n level....i spray n pray.  :joystick: :airplane:
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #144 on: October 20, 2009, 04:10:23 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on October 20, 2009, 04:02:58 PM
the funny thing with me......i can't hit poop from dead 6. sometimes i can barley see the dam thing. then top it off with me having time to aim.....i do much better when i have those fleeting shots with the con crossing my nose, i fire off a burst, i may hit him.

 that's why when the 190 drivers start their rolling thing, i wait.,....when they look like they're about to get big, i fire a burst.....when they're runnin straight n level....i spray n pray.  :joystick: :airplane:
Don't feel bad. I scream like a teenage girl at a haunted house. When a p38 dives on me and doesnt go screaming by! :x :uhoh
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #145 on: October 20, 2009, 05:32:26 PM »
Quote from: BlauK on October 20, 2009, 03:54:29 PM
HO is great if you have the losing cards in your hand and you can "double or nothing" with your HO. If you can beat the opponent without risking a HO, then agreeing to HO is simply stupid. It still takes 2 to HO and either one can decide to break it. Usually the one with more to lose (energy, angles, position, altitude, virtual prestige, whatever) avoids the HO or then both just decide to gun it out.

What is so complicated about the whole HO issue? Forget it already  :furious
First of all dont say forget it when your still posting threads....Its a known fact that you can get killed avioding a HO...most of the stuff Ive read and learned is you want to turn towards HO to make E states the same, also when you have the same E as someone its all about who can get inside the other person the best which almost means get passed HO which is sometimes hard to do at low speed. If you want me to show you in DA that it doesnt take both to HO I will...
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #146 on: October 20, 2009, 05:44:33 PM »
Quote from: crazyivan on October 20, 2009, 03:25:46 PM
I had somone named Sharps ram my p-40 the other night! :D
lol, last time I saw a P40 it was because I was in it.  There is a guy in LW named Sharp, might have been him  :salute
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #147 on: October 20, 2009, 05:49:43 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 20, 2009, 03:42:26 PM
I dont understand how you try to reason this at all. Yeager says he flys to survive.... but he says he will take a HO(which is a 50/50 of coming out on top).
For me I would guess its more like 70% survive to 30% die on the Head on shot for me.  Probably less than 10% of the shots I take are front quarter and of all those I might pass for a better shot 50% of the time.  You NEED TO UNDERSTAND, the HO shot is NOT A PROBLEM for me.  Then again I fly mainly MW so the crowding that forces so many head ons in the LW is not something I typically deal with.
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #148 on: October 20, 2009, 05:54:54 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on October 20, 2009, 12:14:03 PM
Fixed.
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lol akak, you are quite the imaginative writer, sort of like all that imagination you use to club baby seals in the MW with the uber hot P38J and the three vertical moves (being generous with that) you have mastered over the past ten years, rope a dope over and over and over again.

Have fun with that!

Take care bro  :salute
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Re: It takes 2 to HO....
« Reply #149 on: October 20, 2009, 05:55:52 PM »
Only thing that bothers me of what Yeager has said is that he will never fight at a disadvantage.  That's extremely weak.  Especially in the MW.

Yeager if you ever want to go to the DA and work on some moves with less E, I'll be down.  I'll teach you a few things.   :salute
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