Icons

[jimson]

All one has to do is look at AVA and see that the no icon fan club is tiny to non existent. To think those settings will work in a time set environment when it has obviously failed in a "fly whenever you want" environment

The real truth is the AvA population was tiny to non existent before the icon change ever took place, for a variety of reasons. Chief among them is that you simply can't fly any plane from any country at any time.

The AvA will never have 100's of players, but it currently is doing OK.

It's just not true to say no icons has failed in AvA, no more than anything else has failed in AvA.

In fact, it has brought back several people who haven't flown in there for years.

If you read the AvA forum, it's pretty active. The arena, at least when I play, has a large enough population that it's easy to find a fight.

The no icons setting is working pretty well in AvA, but I never really want to see it expand into other arenas.

I for one, rather like the AvA having the monopoly on that.

[gyrene81]

All one has to do is look at AVA and see that the no icon fan club is tiny to non existent. To think those settings will work in a time set environment when it has obviously failed in a "fly whenever you want" environment is just going against the majority. I know I spend more time in the FSO than the MA and it is pretty much the only reason I fly anymore. Even Hajo decided he was going to hang it up and drop his account. I would hate to see the FSO go the way of AVA because toying with the settings was more important than putting on an event that the majority enjoyed.

Another rocket scientist without a clue. Just so you're informed next time, the AvA went no enemy icons in March of this year, and it is picking up a bigger fan club than it had prior to that.
Before March 2010, the AvA was pretty much the same as FSO. Same maps, same settings, no time limits.

[DrDea]

Another rocket scientist without a clue. Just so you're informed next time, the AvA went no enemy icons in March of this year, and it is picking up a bigger fan club than it had prior to that.
Before March 2010, the AvA was pretty much the same as FSO. Same maps, same settings, no time limits.

 Aw gee shucks. I guess zero numbers is still zero numbers regardless of the settings. But this isnt the setting for a AVA recruiting thread. Its about the settings that it seems has reduced the enjoyment for most of those posting in here.

[jimson]

DrDea is right, this thread isn't supposed to be about AvA, but it might be helpful to try out the arena to get acclimated to limited icon settings so that the FSO experience over the next two weeks is more enjoyable.

[captain1ma]

daddog, you will always get your share of whiners and cryers whenever you try something new. its easy for them to condemn while they hide behind an anonymous computer screen. i too have been the victim of the retribution whenever someone is not happy or doesnt like change. As we see in the AVA forum, you need a thick skin and a set of these:

[gyrene81]

If anyone wants to get some target practice in a no enemy icons environment I'll be in the AvA later this afternoon and tomorrow. The dar settings make it fairly easy to find someone to fight, just have to figure out what alt they are at.

[jimson]

One of the more difficult things is discerning range. It helps to pay attention off or online in other arenas, as to what ranges the aircraft relates to how large it looks in the sight picture.

Some more tips can be found here. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,290632.0.html

[WxMan]

Not currently in game........
But glad to see that FSO is now popular enough to withstand growing pains of such as this without the loss of major squads. They should explore any aspect as long as it is across the board.
This will weather out as all things have and a happy medium will prevail.
And for the record: Icons could include skill level at 6K and I would still be hard pressed to get a kill in my beloved FSO.

The Arabian Knights have participated in every FSO since it's inception. While in the past we have drastically reduced our commitment at times; this is the first time the squad had unanimously voted to skip an event. The primary reason was the setup, as espoused by many of the posts here. 

While we chose not to participate, we still hope that this July's event will be a success. FSO still remains one of the best attractions of Aces High.

[Shamus]

I kind of liked the 3k FSO enemy icons,  1k is too short, if that makes me a whiner so be it.

shamus

[Vulcan]

Missed this is FSO because I'm laid up in hospital. CM's you expect commitment from squads in consistency - maybe the same goes the other way in game settings. Icons is something a lot of people seem to not want to be changed - so why do it?

[DrDea]

  Ive been biteing my tounge on this one but it needs to be said. When your biggest support is from a squad that got kicked out of FSO,you seriously need to take a look at what your promoting. Cause your so far from right you should be ashamed.

[shppr01]

Did I miss something ?
I just searched all my data on WWII and have found no reference to any pilot finding a red icon above any enemy they came across. FSO tries to be historically accurate, and therefore I agree with the icon range.I <S> Daddog and the FSO crew for doing a great job in the FSOs. After all , Its a game , And I am an adult playing that game . Those who say "Im not playing anymore unless the icon is changed." should probably go back to playing other games and leave the FSO for pp;l who would like to have FUN!

[Vulcan]

Did I miss something ?

obviously you did - the game engine in no way provides the total visual fidelity to compare with the real world, and thus icons make up for this shortfall.

FSO has been built up over the years to an awesome event, if it ain't broke why fix it?

[TUK]

Happy 4th of July everyone..

[shppr01]

obviously you did - the game engine in no way provides the total visual fidelity to compare with the real world, and thus icons make up for this shortfall.

FSO has been built up over the years to an awesome event, if it ain't broke why fix it?

I understand this, But why complain is all Im saying . after all it is only a game Right ?