notice it says battles, not people.
as for the no icons thing, well the pilots that want to get better like them. the pilots that don't like getting killed hate them.
Biggest BS ever lol. I have no problem getting killed, but the only way you could get me mr SA is by having icons off and wait till I engage some one else right? Have you gotten any better because of the no icons?
The stubbornness of the AvA staff is beyond belief. You keep asking for people to come in tot he AvA. People tell you that they might if you turn on icons and you insist on telling them how great it is without them and then insult them for wanting them on
I was there last night. The great fights you are talking about were, well, as easy as they can get. 109F vs Hurri or p38. The 109 just owned them both no problem. If that it was not enough that the other side had no chance based on their equipment, people were gang banging already injured planes 3 on 1. The poor guy in the injured hurri never had a chance since he could not even see them coming.
If soooooooo many people like the set ups that cater only to cherry picking or making fights difficult, (example of things you tried: no radar, no icons, tornado powered side winds, etc) why is it empty and and why do you have to ask people to come in?
My opinion, if you want customers, sell them what they want. Don't sit there telling them what they should want. It is either going to be your sand box, or theirs!