Stall limiter...do you fly with it on or off

[flatiron1]

stall limiter feels like it does if you have one elevator missing

[LCADolby]

off, so that when i stall out i get shot and my 

[Soulyss]

As for stall limiter my take on it is, that it's better to turn it off (when is a more subjective question to me).   If the goal is to get the most performance out of your airplane then stall limiter will stop that, it's a brick wall in the flight envelope that you can't get past.  With it off a player will at first have some difficulty and likely a little frustration while they relearn the control inputs needed to achieve the desired results but the difference is that eventually they will make the adjustment and when they do they will now be able to move past that barrier and explore the full flight envelope of the aircraft.

[Getback]

Turn it off and stay out of the picker plane too! 

But I love to pick! 

Turn it off and set your elevator axis to 1 or slightly less than 1 to 1. If you leave it at default you will lose lift or stall out fast from yanking the stick. I set my stick to trim everything and then quickly go back to combat trim.

[skagneti]

Sounds like I have to take the training wheels ,that I didn't even know I had, off now.  Not that I care much about what my score is, but I can tell you that relearning, and the failures sure to come with it are going to make me a ripe target for a while.  Oh well a briefly bruised ego for the potential of greater future performance sounds like a good deal to me.  Thanks for all of the input.

[Getback]

Sounds like I have to take the training wheels ,that I didn't even know I had, off now.  Not that I care much about what my score is, but I can tell you that relearning, and the failures sure to come with it are going to make me a ripe target for a while.  Oh well a briefly bruised ego for the potential of greater future performance sounds like a good deal to me.  Thanks for all of the input.

Throw that ego out the door! You won't learn nothing playing it safe. I see the best pilots on the deck duking it out with 3 or 4 opponents.

[Soulyss]

Sounds like I have to take the training wheels ,that I didn't even know I had, off now.  Not that I care much about what my score is, but I can tell you that relearning, and the failures sure to come with it are going to make me a ripe target for a while.  Oh well a briefly bruised ego for the potential of greater future performance sounds like a good deal to me.  Thanks for all of the input.

Yep there will probably be some gnashing of teeth and choice words hurled at the computer monitor while you make the adjustment but it will start falling back into place before long.  Shoot me a PM if you want and we can set aside some time and head to the TA, w/out any gun damage we can fly some 1v1's w/out the long flight to and from.  

[caldera]

Flew years with it on, tried turning it off and struggled with crashes.  Eventually got OK but took a break from the game.  After coming back, was crashing more than ever and turned it back on.  Yes, call me a nancy, but now the ground is of minor concern in a fight.  And if I beat you, you probably suck real bad. 

[Ack-Ack]

What are the downsides to Combat Trim?

Combat trim has a negative effect on flaps, which is why it's recommended on planes that are flap dependent not to use combat trim.

ack-ack

[Nr_RaVeN]

OFF..

In the long run it will open more for you.. Tweak your controller sliders too.

[Delirium]

A long time ago (before I was a Trainer), I brought a player into the TA to help show him the P38. I soundly beat him, particularly at slow speeds, he just couldn't get the angles. Finally, I asked him if he had stall limiter on and he said, "Yes, it makes the P38 feel more realistic." I told him that even flying at his very best, he could still lose fights to someone with it off in certain situations.

Instead of taking my advice and turning it off,  now all he does is fly bombers or fast rides and never getting slow enough to have the stall limiter affect him. You don't want to end up like that...

[guncrasher]

first things first, you are going to stall a lot, and I mean a lot. but once you get used to it and know the feel of your plane you will turn a little better than others. but if you mostly use the dive and run acm it wont matter.

semp

[Dead Man Flying]

All other things being equal, a pilot flying without the stall limiter will beat the pilot with the stall limiter every single fight.

[4brkfast]

OFF

[Brooke]

Haven't been around AH very long...some guys were saying you should always use Combat Trim, that it helps you retain E by always having you in trim.  What are the downsides to Combat Trim?

In Aces High, at least for those without force-feedback sticks, stick travel equates to pull force in a real plane.  Trim (such as up trim) just works like in a real plane by biasing what the netural point of stick pull results in as well as giving you (again for up trim) more up elevator deflection at any given amount of stick pull force.

I don't find any performance advantage to combat trim off as long as I can generate enough stick force to give a stall or blackout (i.e., I don't need more elevator authority).  There are some limited cases where you can pull the stick all the way back and not black out or stall, such as in a 109 at high speed as one example.  In that case, adding some up trim with the stick full back will allow you to pull more g's than with combat trim on and the stick full back.

Combat trim off would mean that your neutral point isn't changing as your speed changes, thus perhaps giving you some element of feel that some folks might prefer during a fight compared to having combat trim on.  Combat trim on, though, is just like contantly retrimming the plane as your speed changes; so it might be that some folks prefer the feel of that.

Me, I fly with it on unless I'm yanking full back and need more elevator authority, then I crank in some up trim temporarily (then back to combat trim).