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More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« on: March 29, 2011, 04:21:19 AM »
In the new perk loadout system.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 04:23:21 AM »
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 04:23:46 AM »
There is a new perk system?
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 04:42:46 AM »
Perk loadout system is on their todo/considered list.
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Like it says. You get more troops at a price, the same way you get 20mm's at a price on the F4U-1.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 04:57:20 AM »
However the A/C or GV was only capable of carrying X amount of cargo.

How are you going to increase its finite ability to carry more?
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 05:00:38 AM »
Well, if youre in a troop carryer, youre a sitting duck. Why would anyone pay perks to bring 20 troops in a c47? He has a massive chance to get shot down. Or, if the friendlies have cap over the field, why you need more troops?
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 05:31:43 AM »
However the A/C or GV was only capable of carrying X amount of cargo.

How are you going to increase its finite ability to carry more?
28 troops in the C47.

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Well, if youre in a troop carryer, youre a sitting duck. Why would anyone pay perks to bring 20 troops in a c47? He has a massive chance to get shot down.
Because there's that much more of a chance that 10 of them will survive.  Also what's the difference from any other perked plane flying with a neon perk tag?  Assuming a 28 drunk goon would have such a clear telltale.

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Or, if the friendlies have cap over the field, why you need more troops?
loaded premise and still leaves perked cargo load as worthwhile
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 05:40:58 AM »
I've vouched for certain vehicles having the ability to carry more troops for a long time.  Why limit the number to 10?  I say tie it into the number of barracks available on a base much the same as the amount of fuel can be taken based on the number of fuel tanks destroyed.

make it so that in the goon at its 16 troops (?) can not be taken if 3 barracks are down, the M3 and its 12 troops can not be taken if 4 barracks are down, the LVT2 and SdKfz 251 keep their 10 troops but are nixed if 5 barracks are down, and the jeep is always available until ALL of the barracks are down.

That right there would add in an entirely new strategic aspect to AH.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 05:50:07 AM »
The 10 troop cap is because HT means for a single normal C47 load to be enough for one map room.  So that ought to be the baseline for any wishlist cargo/troop system.. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 06:11:33 AM »
Thought about it a bit more.
I was always of the understanding that the #10 was a representative  #.

 How many troops could an M3 carry? In the game its 10 but lets try it to be a realistic
comparison. Moot gets his increase and gives more reasons to bring in differing A/C or GV's.

 If the C47 gets its 28, give the M3 its proper loadout.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 06:25:46 AM »
Proper loadout at a perk cost if over 10 troops. 

This isn't about "my" fav plane or loadout.. It's a suggestion for the game itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Half-track says 3 crew (driver/copilot/gunner) + 10 troops. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251 says 12 including passengers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_C-47_Skytrain says 28 troops
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 06:41:45 AM »
Moot, you forgot the LVT, Wiki reckons could carry up to 30 passengers. That might be less if you are counting fully equipped combat troops but it should still be a lot more than ten. Would make a nice trade off for speed versus loadout vs the half tracks.

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 06:47:14 AM »
Proper loadout at a perk cost if over 10 troops. 

This isn't about "my" fav plane or loadout.. It's a suggestion for the game itself.

 I understood that, was just saying you would get increased abilities that you do want.

And it makes more sense to send in C47's with more than just a fraction of its load.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2011, 06:50:46 AM »
28 troops in the C47.
Because there's that much more of a chance that 10 of them will survive.  Also what's the difference from any other perked plane flying with a neon perk tag?  Assuming a 28 drunk goon would have such a clear telltale.
loaded premise and still leaves perked cargo load as worthwhile
got it
Edit: this perk system is damn a good idea. It could be used for additional bomber drones, or for the gv camo thing, or maybe higher octane fuel for fighters, and the list goes on.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 07:07:20 AM »
forgot the LVT
I'm looking this stuff up and dodging bullets in game hehe :D
That'd be a nice tradeoff yep, getting pretty crazy on the perk/death risk ratio though.  Not many things easier to kill than an LVT2.
you would get increased abilities that you do want.

And it makes more sense to send in C47's with more than just a fraction of its load.
But what I'm suggesting is for anything above a map room's worth to be available at a cost.  So playing by HT's rules, "fraction-loaded" C47 will always be whatever number == <1 map room.  Meaning e.g. if we wanted to give more vehicles a perked "overload" option, we could lower map room hardness to e.g. 8 troops, so that e.g. the 251 could have some meaningful perked cargo volume.
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