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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2011, 02:54:24 PM »
So I would then like to see a new perk category: "Troops".  To earn those perks you must capture maprooms.  The amount of troop perks you get is proportional to the numbers imbalance between the three sides in the arena; the larger the imbalance, the fewer perks you earn.
That could be one way.  One of the things about this suggestion is that it's one more non-exclusive (ie you do this and every other thing that costs bomber perks) use for bomber perks, so that there's better chances that people don't have so many unused perks points that this idea's a non starter.  IOW there'd effectively be no scarcity to something that's supposed to be rare.. and if not, we're back to square one: everyone carrying X number of troops means X number of troops is how many it takes.
This would also get more people in C47s.

Moot, you've been extremely defensive, combatative, and contradictory for little or no reason the past couple weeks with a NUMBER of threads. Not sure what's up with that man, but take a chill pill.
Show me where I've done anything but thoroughly and impartially argue.  Take a chill pill yourself.  This is all just hashing things out about a video game and I'm not taking it seriously other than being impartial and meticulous.  If that chaps your bellybutton or you can't not take everything personally, then stop reading and replying. 

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The number of troops it takes to capture a maproom is directly tied to the number of troops a goon carries. You cannot separate these 2 issues.
Why?  Just say why you "cannot separate these 2 issues".  That's what I've asked since I dunno how many posts up. You never give an answer other than "just because".  The HTC comment has nothing in it that explicits whether it includes perk loadouts or not.  That these two issues cannot be separated in unperked scenario is understood, that they can't be in a perked scenario is not clear at all.  Of course it'd all be settled if e.g. HT chimed in.

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Your "Show me where I can't!!!" retorts are not your best showing here.
:lol  Where did I even say that? 

You know what I think Krusty?  I'm totally trouncing your arguments (note the word arguments and not some other .. what's the term.. character assassination "word") and you just can't bear it.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2011, 01:01:39 AM »
You know what I think Krusty?  I'm totally trouncing your arguments (note the word arguments and not some other .. what's the term.. character assassination "word") and you just can't bear it.

No.. you're not. You're repeating yourself ad nauseum and just about blowing a gasket doing so.

So show me where HTC explicitly said that their gameplay design choice includes perk loadouts like the one I'm suggesting.

That's where you asked it. The 2 go hand in hand. Troops per capture and troops per trip. They are intrinsicly tied together. Your only response is "Where?! Show me how they're tied together!" where the case has been stated by Hitech they are tied together, and will remain equal to each other.

End of story. You don't have to twist words or fling insults man. You don't have a leg to stand on. It's been discussed so many times. Pretending this is a new topic by using the word "perk" is a distraction and nothing else. You want more troops so you don't lose a capture. End of request. Hitech has squashed that idea. End of response.

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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2011, 02:37:32 AM »
:lol  .. I'm blowing a gasket.  Really Krusty?  Show me where I blow a gasket.  In fact recently I've been more nonchalant than usual.  Maybe your crystal ball needs replacin.  Maybe it's you that's blowing a gasket.  Have you considered that?
Where am I insulting ?  How can you get away with so many false statements in both factual matters like airplane stats or injecting meaning to ambiguous quotes like HT's comment, and keep getting away with it?  It's been years that you've been doing this.  When are you going to stop?
Where does HT say that if we got a perk loadout system the troops per vehicle would still be limited to one map room's worth? This might be what HT thinks but there's no explicit evidence that it is their design intention.
I never asked, this is just another "wish" where an idea's floated and entertained without being accepted or rejected beforehand.

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Hitech has squashed that idea.
Not the perk one.

I'm gonna pass on pointing out how you're pretending that something as ambiguous RE: perk loadouts as HT's comment can be so definitively interpreted.  You have no idea whether it includes perk loadouts, you're just guessing.  It's dishonest.  Whether you actually believe it or are just defending it because you want to have the last word is inconsequential to the fact that there is no explicit evidence that a perk loadout would or wouldn't be included in that comment from HT.

And no one here is blowing a gasket.  What are you smoking?  How is sharpening your arguments so that they leave no doubt as to their correctness or incorrectness when put to the test, blowing a gasket?  Are you seriously this susceptible?  Jeez :lol

Seriously.  It's like being frank and diligent enough to take someone's argument and run thru it integrally, testing it from head to toe, and thoroughly considering everything - it's as if being that comprehensive is somehow threatening to you.  What's going on?  Are you just scared of arguments?  It's the same deal in the 109K/410 thread and in the previous 410 thread, and a bunch of other threads over the years, e.g. one with WMaker where you're just totally off base and "blowing a gasket". 

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.  I've seen other people who I barely know and talk to make the exact same observations in other discussions I never participated in.  Some of those by PM.  One of those is HT (IIRC) himself - Krusties as unit of BS.  Get a grip.  I'm not blowing a gasket.  Having a comprehensive POV on something and faithfully transcribing it to text doesn't require someone to be "blowing a gasket".  Impartially entertaining an idea so that it's thoroughly weighed and measured isn't some symptom of evil, it's just honest common sense. Just shrewdness and discipline.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2011, 09:04:20 AM »
Another wall of text.. Dude, chill..

Regardless of what mechanism you're creating for it, the request is for more troops per trip.

You could have requested that partisans hiding in the city rubble jump up and join your troops to the map room.

You could have requested a loudspeaker on your C-47 that inspires citizens to rebel and join your troops in the map room.

You could have requested drones for the C-47 (formations) for 3 loads of troops at the map room.

You could have requested towed gliders so that you get more troops to the map room.

Instead you requested an attempted justification for the extra troops (paying perks).


End result: More troops per trip hit the map room.

HTC says "no" to that. Doesn't matter what method. Could be a magic wizard summons demons from the underworld to supplement your troops running for the map room. They said the numbers hitting the map room are for gameplay balance reasons. For all the reasons repeated to you over and over. Your grasp on the matter is either nonexistent or you're trolling. At this point I'm suspecting the latter, given your walls of ranting text in a few threads.

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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2011, 09:24:32 AM »
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HTC says "no" to that. Doesn't matter what method.
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Re: More troops/cargo for perk $$$
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2011, 08:56:21 PM »
what about looking at it from the point of view of giving people a little extra incentive for running supplies and troops? add a misc perk point deal and once a number of points is achieved, they can use their points to take extra supplies or troops in a single run. i know i'd do it if there was something besides what sometimes turns into a waste of time for running troops or supplies.

You earn perk points for running troops, for a base capture, and supplies now.



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Since there is not a perk ord system, we know the answer now is no.

Just speculating, but I don't think a perk ord system would be an "extra ords" type deal but be a basic load out with "better" loads perked.

F4U-1D as "basic". .50cals and 500lb bombs. Perked, 1000lb bombs, 20mm cannon, nee F4U-1C.
B-17 with 500lb bombs as basic. 1000lb bombs perked.

Not extra bombs, extra ammo.
Not extra troops, better troops. Rangers.  :P


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