Base capture

[oTRALFZo]

I guess you go right to the head of the list (just above Tralfazz) of forum blowhards who lack the skill to back their bragging about "easy vGuy kills". It's a lot easier to be a Big Man in the forum than in the arena, isn't it?   :

 

Loki,
Shall I post film of that 3 ring circus you guys had last week when it was me and my squaddie Sniper30 holding back your horde?
He held up and was at 22 kills just sitting at the maproom from wave after wave from you guys. I was up to 10 before finally some non V guy bombed us. ( I got your scalp a few too ) but thanks for laughs

[mausil]

If I get bored for some reason I just need to come to the forums because everyday there is a new episode of this delightfull sitcom called "VTard´s and the World" 

[Becinhu]

If it wasn't for the large landgrabbing squads alot of us would have nothing to do but stare at the map wondering where a good fight was at. 

     My first several years in game landgrabbing was the most fun I had.  As I grew as a player (I still suck as bad as the day I started), I moved away from basetaking into a more rounded role.  I fly buffs, jabo, furball, sometimes basetake, defend basetake attempts, gv, etc.  On a boring night an NOE horde mission will break the cycle and get me re-energized to play. 
     Do I like the horde mentality? No, but then again I can always ignore that fight if I don't want to deal with it.  I left a squad that I helped form for this very reason.  Plus I learned that a very large squad didn't fit my style since on any given night that there were more than 10 people on squad vox I might know 3 of them.  What made me decide I didn't like it finally was when I was FSO CO and the newbies would tell me the didn't have to listen to orders because they didn't know me.
     I may whine and complain about hordes on squad or country text, but in the end the hordes actually do make for good fights sometimes (if they leave the hangers up).  And when its 15v1...you all don't have to HO every pass.  It should be hard for someone to get behind that one defender.

 

[Getback]

Hmm! never said vhorde either!

To be clear to everyone I am NOT whining, Improving hatefull interaction between adversaries in this game will only improve it  I am fine with any kind of base taking there is, sneak, smash and grab or the kind that comes after a lengthy "back and forth" struggle the latter being prefered! 




JUGgler

In lane one we have getback doing the backstroke. hehe

[Crash Orange]

Loki,
Shall I post film of that 3 ring circus you guys had last week when it was me and my squaddie Sniper30 holding back your horde?
He held up and was at 22 kills just sitting at the maproom from wave after wave from you guys. I was up to 10 before finally some non V guy bombed us. ( I got your scalp a few too ) but thanks for laughs

You left out the part where you were in a Tiger and able to kill Panzers and T-34s with ease because their hits were bouncing off you. That's like bragging about shooting down a bunch of Stukas in a C-hog, is that all you've got? And as I recall you only upped the Tiger because you and your buddies got smacked down in fighters. And we STILL took the base.

[GNucks]

A P-51D with a hangar package can clip along at 300+ pretty easily at 8-10K, giving about 150 seconds warning if radar is up. I don't think that's enough for the defenders to scramble and actually be able to meet them either.

That's why we do it, rarely is the response significant and when we level the field in one pass the airspace pretty much belongs to us anyway. I give props to those slippery little bastages who eliminate our troops and proceed to school us less experienced guys, taking 3 or 4 of us with them if/when they finally go down.

Anyway, I think the early warning systems could use some tweaking/improving too. I don't know...

[DMGOD]

And just who exactly from the Devil's Brigade has posted in this thread bragging about anything?



Want to impress me? Quit talking trash in the forums and do something about it in the MA. We're not hard to find.

Maybe not in this thread but u guys continuously brag about being the best base taking squad in the game. Please bring up backing up what I say  with me, what am I at almost 100 vtard kills for the month.
C'mon loki u have to admit that ur way of taking bases is weak lol anybody can take a undefended base with unbelievable overwhelming  numbers. Seriously you guys wanna brag about something (even though u say ur not here to impress anybody ) teach the majority of ur guys some skills and out fly some people with skill and not numbers. You want to be respected then u have to do something respectable and u guys fall far short of that.

[GNucks]

Maybe not in this thread but u guys continuously brag about being the best base taking squad in the game. Please bring up backing up what I say  with me, what am I at almost 100 vtard kills for the month.
C'mon loki u have to admit that ur way of taking bases is weak lol anybody can take a undefended base with unbelievable overwhelming  numbers. Seriously you guys wanna brag about something (even though u say ur not here to impress anybody ) teach the majority of ur guys some skills and out fly some people with skill and not numbers. You want to be respected then u have to do something respectable and u guys fall far short of that.

Who taught you?

[DMGOD]

Who taught you?

taught me what?

[Crash Orange]

Maybe not in this thread but u guys continuously brag about being the best base taking squad in the game.

In this forum I'd say the hate-ons out what bragging there is by about 10-1.

Please bring up backing up what I say  with me, what am I at almost 100 vtard kills for the month.

I only tell it like it is. Two-thirds of the people who mouth off about easy vGuy kills in the forums can't back that talk up in the arena. You're in the other third, I won't deny it. But we get you some of the time as well.

C'mon loki u have to admit that ur way of taking bases is weak lol anybody can take a undefended base with unbelievable overwhelming  numbers. Seriously you guys wanna brag about something (even though u say ur not here to impress anybody ) teach the majority of ur guys some skills and out fly some people with skill and not numbers. 

We take plenty of bases with large numbers of defenders. We took A5 a little after I logged on tonight, it was a hard-fought battle - there must have been 20 planes defending plus at least seven tanks camping the spawn. Granted there were more attackers than just us, but it's another hole in the myth of us running from opposition, never taking defending bases, giving up if anyone ups to defend, etc. That's a lot of BS spewed by people who are just mad that they couldn't stop us.

When I logged off we had 8 or 10 guys over on the knight side. We don't always fly in huge hordes, not even mostly. When we post missions and get a big group together it's usually because there have been big groups of defenders as well.

I don't see base takes by anyone with very small numbers, except sneaks with no defense. In this game as in war the odds favor the defender - even more so since the defenders can pop right back up endless times while every attacker has a long flight back if he goes down - and taking a base isn't just about winning a fight, it takes a minimum number of guys to deack and take the town down, level or cap the field, bring and escort the troops, and so forth. It only takes one lucky or good defender to kill the goon. Skill doesn't give you extra ords or allow you to be in two places at once; you can get the top 5 pilots in the game together and they still aren't going to be able to take a field by themselves if there are even a couple of defenders with half a clue - there just won't be enough to do all that needs to be done.

[usvi]

Make it stop...

[Ardy123]

Two-thirds of the people who mouth off about easy vGuy kills in the forums can't back that talk up in the arena.

Woohoo I'm in the upper third 
No seriously, I like killing them and trying to stop their base takes but I don't like it when they take the FH out so that there is no chance of me playing with them. As far as I'm concerned taking out the FH when they have a huge numerical superiority is just anti-social.

[SunBat]

I only tell it like it is. Two-thirds of the people who mouth off about easy vGuy kills in the forums can't back that talk up in the arena. You're in the other third, I won't deny it. But we get you some of the time as well.

Do you realize that this implies that you admit that a third of the BBS population is better than the vTargets?  That means that the majority of the vTargets are in the bottom 66.66666666666666666666666666 66666666666666666666666666666 666666666666666667% of the class. 

That's an F for the majority of the squad. 

Doh.   

[RufusLeaking]

In this game as in war the odds favor the defender - even more so since the defenders can pop right back up endless times while every attacker has a long flight back if he goes down . . .

Offense has the initiative. That is, the offense is more coordinated, and knows where it is going. It takes some luck and patience to get a plane up to altitude at the right place and time to intercept. Most of the time an alert is called, I'm already up doing something else.

The best times to defend (ironically?) is when base takers get on a roll, and it gets easy to anticipate the next take.

[Imowface]

why not adjust it so the Dar bar, is at 0ft, but has a celling of say, 28k, that way no more NOE, and if they want to run a sneak attack, they have to take time to do it