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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2011, 12:38:08 AM »
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That was Hitler's dream, and a nice theory... As you can see in the picture above, they did get quite close to deliver their shots. The guns also had a bad habit of jamming after 1 or 2 rounds, and the fight would be pressed on with just a light 2x20mm cannon loadout.

but there is no gun jamming in the game...  :D
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2011, 01:33:39 AM »
From wiki...

"Intended for long-range shots, the cannon was given a telescopic sight in addition to the Me 410's standard Revi C12C gunsight."

Will we have this same telescopic sight in our 410 if they add the 50mm?  I wouldn't think so seeing as we have zoom, but I figured I would ask anyways. :aok
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2011, 09:35:03 AM »
Since no other planes have it, I'm going to guess the answer is "no, use the zoom"....

A telescoping optic was common on a number of planes in WW2.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on November 02, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Since no other planes have it, I'm going to guess the answer is "no, use the zoom"....

A telescoping optic was common on a number of planes in WW2.

did the scope on the d3a1 zoom at all?
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2011, 12:28:57 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on November 02, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
A telescoping optic was common on a number of planes in WW2.

Really, or are you confusing it for an Aldis sight?




This Ki-43 does not have a telescopic sight, but an Aldis sight. One of the earliest examples of collimated sights. First used during WWI. There was no magnification.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2011, 12:57:22 PM »
I know some had just basic tube-sights, but a number did have some kind of optic. I get the impression most were removed and standard sights were used. It was a tool that didn't work well due to vibrations and other things that made it hard to use.

Ever look through a telescope that's not on a good mount? Trying to pick out some detail on something is hard if it's not a perfectly steady view. I imagine that's why it was pretty useless on fighter planes.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2011, 01:05:00 PM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on November 02, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Really, or are you confusing it for an Aldis sight?

Nope its a telescoping sight, seen here with the bk5. there are many pictures of them.


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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2011, 01:29:35 PM »
Hmm....ideas of synchronized gun fire for a screenshot popping into my head.  :)
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2011, 01:44:22 PM »
Something which Superfly/Waffle would certainly appriciate is very accurate and detailed line-drawings of the plane with cross sectionals.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2011, 02:08:14 PM »
Quote from: Megalodon on November 02, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
Nope its a telescoping sight, seen here with the bk5. there are many pictures of them.

I know the 410 had a "sniper scope" for the BK-5. I was adressing Krusty's claim that "A telescoping optic was common on a number of planes in WW2."

The Aldis sight is an optical sight, just no magnification. It was the precursor to the reflector sight commonly used in WWII.




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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2011, 02:17:47 PM »
The Aldis worked just like a modern "red dot sight" except it used engraved circles on the glass itself rather than a laser reflector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6GyglxFRpQ

Just like the red dot sight led to the "holographic sight", the Aldis led to the reflector sight.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2011, 02:22:06 PM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on November 02, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
I know the 410 had a "sniper scope" for the BK-5. I was adressing Krusty's claim that "A telescoping optic was common on a number of planes in WW2."

The Aldis sight is an optical sight, just no magnification. It was the precursor to the reflector sight commonly used in WWII.


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 It was more common in ww1 planes :)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,282953.msg3578621.html#msg3578621
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2011, 02:33:18 PM »
Yes, but it was still used in the '30s and even into the early years of the war. Like on the Ki-43 I posted above. The 410 is the only aircraft I know of that used a telescopic sight during the war.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2011, 02:50:27 PM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on November 02, 2011, 02:33:18 PM
The 410 is the only aircraft I know of that used a telescopic sight during the war.

I've seen field mods where 109s had different kind of telescopic sights. One even had the sight used by the Me410. But yes, they indeed were rare.





Into the Me410 it could be modelled as bomb/tank sight selected by the main board's number keys. Doubt that it'll happen but that's how it could be implemented using existing game feature.
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Re: Me 410 data
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2011, 03:12:04 PM »
Quote from: Wmaker on November 02, 2011, 01:44:22 PM
Something which Superfly/Waffle would certainly appriciate is very accurate and detailed line-drawings of the plane with cross sectionals.

I have some scans I can upload later today that may help get the proper shape of the plane for 3D modeling. I believe they have cross-sections like you suggest.
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