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Offline Raphael

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2012, 09:51:37 PM »
Those computers are getting pretty darned good nowadays, and if they keep getting better I don't see why the pilot should be anything more than a backup.  The controls are already fly-by-wire, so if the computer breaks you're bagged either way.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2012, 09:57:11 PM »
More like Autopilot; those planes don't come armed, either.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2012, 10:00:23 PM »
Those computers are getting pretty darned good nowadays, and if they keep getting better I don't see why the pilot should be anything more than a backup.  The controls are already fly-by-wire, so if the computer breaks you're bagged either way.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2012, 10:04:40 PM »
Those computers are getting pretty darned good nowadays, and if they keep getting better I don't see why the pilot should be anything more than a backup.  The controls are already fly-by-wire, so if the computer breaks you're bagged either way.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2012, 10:35:16 PM »
While its flattering to see some think a trained pilot with some experience would safely land an airplane there are probably a hundred if not more totally incompetent AH sticks you wouldn't trust on your virtual wing with far more real world experience than I. If I could pick anyone, I'd pick the AH pilot who has flown the distressed airplane in question and have the flight attendants pour me another drink because that's how I ride in airliners these days. Business class with booze.

Actually if I'm teleporting someone into the cockpit, why not just teleport myself out? That's a better plan altogether. (That's a better plan)

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #80 on: March 09, 2012, 10:44:08 PM »
Did you guys read anything about any recent solar activity that might wipe out a Aircrafts navigational features? I want a Human Pilot flying the Aircraft I'm in. Energised particles pass right through Golfers brain without hampering his electronics. I want Golfer in charge when I have to fly..

Enough said.......I'd rather be smacking Golfer around, other than backing him up. I would feel quite safe in his hands when flying.(only if he keeps me out of the Cockpit)

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #81 on: March 09, 2012, 10:49:50 PM »
Did you guys read anything about any recent solar activity that might wipe out a Aircrafts navigational features? I want a Human Pilot flying the Aircraft I'm in. Energised particles pass right through Golfers brain without hampering his electronics. I want Golfer in charge when I have to fly..

Enough said.......I'd rather be smacking Golfer around, other than backing him up. I would feel quite safe in his hands when flying.(only if he keeps me out of the Cockpit)

You're assuming I have a brain for the particles to pass through. Assume at your own risk.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #82 on: March 10, 2012, 10:10:17 AM »
Not even gamma rays can get through five centimeters of lead.  Just pack the computer in that and put it in the thickest part of the plane.  Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.  You end up with no net-weight gain because most of the cockpit can be removed.  Pilots are surprisingly fragile creatures- they can get sick, make simple math errors, press the wrong button.  That sort of stuff doesn't happen to computers.  Computers never get bored, either.  That's a big one because most of flying is letting the autopilot take you from place to place; if a pilot had to fly an airliner's course manually for eight hours straight he'd likely miss or drive himself nuts staring out across the clouds.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #83 on: March 10, 2012, 10:16:21 AM »
While its flattering to see some think a trained pilot with some experience would safely land an airplane there are probably a hundred if not more totally incompetent AH sticks you wouldn't trust on your virtual wing with far more real world experience than I. If I could pick anyone, I'd pick the AH pilot who has flown the distressed airplane in question and have the flight attendants pour me another drink because that's how I ride in airliners these days. Business class with booze.

Actually if I'm teleporting someone into the cockpit, why not just teleport myself out? That's a better plan altogether. (That's a better plan)

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #84 on: March 10, 2012, 10:23:01 AM »
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That's a big one because most of flying is letting the autopilot take you from place to place; if a pilot had to fly an airliner's course manually for eight hours straight he'd likely miss or drive himself nuts staring out across the clouds.
I wish I had an autopilot. After eight hours flying, I do get bored, tired, hungry, thirsty and go nuts looking at clouds. I am fragile too and lousy at maths. So it's all true.  But I never miss the destination. It's usually beneath me!

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2012, 12:25:24 PM »
Not even gamma rays can get through five centimeters of lead.  Just pack the computer in that and put it in the thickest part of the plane.  Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.  You end up with no net-weight gain because most of the cockpit can be removed.  Pilots are surprisingly fragile creatures- they can get sick, make simple math errors, press the wrong button.  That sort of stuff doesn't happen to computers.  Computers never get bored, either.  That's a big one because most of flying is letting the autopilot take you from place to place; if a pilot had to fly an airliner's course manually for eight hours straight he'd likely miss or drive himself nuts staring out across the clouds.

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Computer components fail on occasion.  If they do and there are no pilots how are you going to compensate for that?  How are you going to account for cooling when you computer is encased in lead?

Oh, by the way, are you a formally trained and licensed pilot?
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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2012, 12:29:45 PM »
Is "imcompacitated" a combination of incompetence and incapacitated?   :D



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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2012, 12:39:19 PM »
Computer components fail on occasion.  If they do and there are no pilots how are you going to compensate for that?  How are you going to account for cooling when you computer is encased in lead?

Oh, by the way, are you a formally trained and licensed pilot?

No, and I never said that there would be no pilots.  They would just do even less than they normally do, and act as a backup.  While not on duty they could set the backup controls to 'simulation' and practice emergency maneuvers.

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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2012, 12:44:44 PM »
Not even gamma rays can get through five centimeters of lead.  Just pack the computer in that and put it in the thickest part of the plane.  Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.  You end up with no net-weight gain because most of the cockpit can be removed.  Pilots are surprisingly fragile creatures- they can get sick, make simple math errors, press the wrong button.  That sort of stuff doesn't happen to computers.  Computers never get bored, either.  That's a big one because most of flying is letting the autopilot take you from place to place; if a pilot had to fly an airliner's course manually for eight hours straight he'd likely miss or drive himself nuts staring out across the clouds.

-Penguin

So, if the most of the cockpit is removed for your zero net weight gain because of the lead surrounding your computer, where are your pilots going to be located?  Why even have pilots if your computer is so good?
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Re: Pilot and Co-Pilot are incompacitated....
« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2012, 02:00:20 PM »
No, and I never said that there would be no pilots.  They would just do even less than they normally do, and act as a backup.  While not on duty they could set the backup controls to 'simulation' and practice emergency maneuvers.

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