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Offline ACE

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2012, 02:32:39 PM »
A storch really?....  Think how long they will ha e to fly to fight.  Just leave the egos at the door and keep the same sdl rules that we had and lets fight!
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2012, 02:35:54 PM »
A storch really?....  Think how long they will ha e to fly to fight.  Just leave the egos at the door and keep the same sdl rules that we had and lets fight!

Air start, obviously  :aok

But a dumb idea if there are no other penalty flags to be thrown... just picked the easiest plane to loiter in and be unmistakable in appearance...


The trick with a cold merge is we are immediately placing artificial constraints on the fight... but, if everyone is flying the same plane, that shouldn't be too large an issue.

I would recommend a textbook cold merge be filmed and a short, to the point Ground Rules of SDL film be thrown up on the Youtubez...  no misunderstandings, no crying.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2012, 02:36:51 PM »
 :old: Me thinks those that want rules want them as a crutch to use later for explaining/arguing about losing.

Huh, Butcher?

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2012, 02:38:01 PM »
:old: Me thinks those that want rules want them as a crutch to use later for explaining/arguing about losing.

Huh, Butcher?

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Rules are rules, there is no explanation or arguing - break them you lose. Not much to explain is there?
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2012, 02:40:23 PM »
Rules are rules, there is no explanation or arguing - break them you lose. Not much to explain is there?


Come on!   You know that the arguing is on "whether" they were broken.   That's why you want it... to try and mitigate your losing by having a rule to reach for and hang on to with your finger nails, imho.

You either down or your not.... no argument there.   :ahand


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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2012, 02:40:55 PM »
:old: Me thinks those that want rules want them as a crutch to use later for explaining/arguing about losing.

Huh, Butcher?

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I believe the SDL was designed to see who the best dogfighters were not who the best HOers were.

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2012, 02:42:16 PM »
I believe the SDL was designed to see who the best dogfighters were not who the best HOers were.

Avoid the HO then, the RL pilots had to... not hard, especially on first encounter.

There is no reason to feel the need for a head on guns on first merge. Offset some vertically and horizontally.  I assure you, no way you can HO on first merge if the other guy won't let you. 
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2012, 02:44:47 PM »
Avoid the HO then, the RL pilots had to... not hard, especially on first encounter.  

So then you would like to see 6 simultaneous games of chicken to see who will "chicken out" first  :headscratch: not exactly dogfighting.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2012, 02:46:39 PM »
Midway you clearly dont have an open mind to others ideas lol.  Carry on.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2012, 02:47:22 PM »
Avoid the HO then, the RL pilots had to... not hard, especially on first encounter. 

Were not hoing on first merge Midway, there is a reason for COLD merge.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2012, 02:48:39 PM »
So then you would like to see 6 simultaneous chicken fights to see who will "chicken out" first  :headscratch: not exactly dogfighting.

Wouldn't happen.  Teamwork would kick in if the squad is half way decent. 


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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2012, 02:49:20 PM »
Midway you clearly dont have an open mind to others ideas lol.  Carry on.

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2012, 02:50:52 PM »
Wouldn't happen.  Teamwork would kick in if the squad is half way decent. 
huh?

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2012, 02:51:40 PM »
:D

Midway, you can't troll the SDL thread any longer until you get into a squad with at least *6* sticks in it.

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2012, 02:55:04 PM »
huh?

Try it.  You'll see.  Best targets of opportunity are set up by squad members.   I see it all the time in MA when one group runs into an enemy group in front of them.  No reason for six guys to head on, guns on, merge with six other guys 1 on 1   If you remove the no HO rule, merges would be more realistic and carefull, and smarter.  


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