Me410

[Karnak]

That's an under statement..  110 eats F4Us and spits.

Only incompetently flown F4Us and Spitfires, which makes your claim useless.  Equal skill the F4U and Spitfire will utterly dominate the Bf110.

[DrBone1]

Any pilot of equal skill to Krup will die.

Now if you said a more experienced pilot than Krup I would agree.

[Krupinski]

Fester beats me 8 times out of 10 in the same plane, I reversed the odds when I was in a 110 and he was in an F4U/Spit.

[DrBone1]

Films or it didn't happen. 

[Hajo]

The A20 havoc  (AAC)  was designed as a low level attack aircraft.  Bostons were A20s the Brits used at a little higher levels as bombers.

During the Invasion.....A20s were flying so low that their props cut swaths through the hedge rows.  That is fact.

Even used by the Brits early war the Bostons were a chore to catch by the Axis Fighters of that time period.

In Never Never land, our MA, where the greatest mostfastestbiggestgunnedrunaw ayafterapass aircraft of later war years handle an A20 or Boston a little easier.

[titanic3]

The only planes that I think will lose to an A20, assuming equal skilled pilots are:

Me-410
190F8
190A8 (maybe)
Ta-152 (on the deck, TnB)
P40s
P39s

In a DA environment, 1v1 merge, the other plane needs to be able to turn/roll better than the A20, to bleed its speed, and then have the acceleration required to start an uphill battle, exceptions being the extreme turny birds (A6M, Hurri, Brew) who can just flat turn and beat it. If the plane cannot force the A20 on the defensive by hard maneuvers, then it will not win. For example, the Ta152 out climbs theA20 in the charts, but in a 1v1 fight, the A20 can turn with it, forcing the 152 on the defensive. The 152 cannot use its climbing power because it's too busy trying to keep the A20 of its tail. The A20 has the inertia to go in a shallow dive then zoom up, giving it plenty of time to kill the other plane.

[Full Metal Jug]

The 410 is just a good buff hunter.  I love how a new plane gets added and "it's not as great as I thought it would be" posts start.

Low to medium alts it like the 110.

High alt (25 - 30 k) and its a bit worthless. I had to let some Lanc's walk last night.

It's not as nimble as a 110 so don't turn fight.

Nein nein nein nein! Der Focke Wulf ist!

[GScholz]

lol!

[SmokinLoon]

I have numbers based on my own tests.  All twin engined fighters have the advantage over the A-20G, unless they turn with it.  They are all faster and climb better (though the climb advantage of the Me410 is marginal against an unladen A-20G).

All the Mossi has to do is get the A20 in a shallow spiral climb.  The Mossi only needs to keep the speeds above 250TAS and vertical as much as possible.  Speed, climb, and acceleration all favor the Mossi in a big way.  Turn radius favors the A20 but not by much, not enough to really even make mention of it.  The 110 has the edge as well.  **I cant believe I'm defending the Mossi and 110 vs the A20**   

[IrishOne]

Only incompetently flown F4Us and Spitfires, which makes your claim useless.  Equal skill the F4U and Spitfire will utterly dominate the Bf110.

i was fighting Krups 110c in a Spit5 last night.   30 fights, at least.    i won maybe 5.   i believe im competant.   110 dominates if flown right, whether you believe it or not.

[Delirium]

How nice it is to have a civil discussion about these things. Not like back in the day... Me likes! 

The only difference is from then and now is you aren't accusing HTC of some kind of anti-Luftwaffe bias.

[titanic3]

All the Mossi has to do is get the A20 in a shallow spiral climb.  The Mossi only needs to keep the speeds above 250TAS and vertical as much as possible.  Speed, climb, and acceleration all favor the Mossi in a big way.  Turn radius favors the A20 but not by much, not enough to really even make mention of it.  The 110 has the edge as well.  **I cant believe I'm defending the Mossi and 110 vs the A20**   

Assuming you can force the A20 to that position in order to be roped. It's not hard at all if you have even 1K of alt over the A20. It's when your slower/lower or in an equal E fight like in the DA. Cobia wins in the MA because newbies underestimate the A20 and start burning all their E to try to get on it's 6.

[W7LPNRICK]

The only difference between DB 605A and 605B is the propeller gear, 605A has an 1,685:1 reduction gear while the 605B has an 1,875:1 reduction gear (i.e. spinning the prop at less rev given the same engine revs).
Similar subvariants were planned for 605AS (605BS) and 605D (605E) and were existing for the DB 601 although with different prop gears.

Wa this done because of discovering super-sonic speeds of the prop tip we fount to be inefficient waste of power?
 

[GScholz]

The only difference is from then and now is you aren't accusing HTC of some kind of anti-Luftwaffe bias.

Knew it wouldn't last...

[Denniss]

Wa this done because of discovering super-sonic speeds of the prop tip we fount to be inefficient waste of power?
 

Must be some airflow efficiency thing. The same engine in different vehicles, one weighting 1 tonne while the other 2 tonnes, would have different transmission ratios optimized for the different weight vehicles. Just guessing - torque vs horsepower.
Early Bf 110 (C/D, equipped with the same engine as the lightweight Bf 109) were known for slow acceleration. AFAIR in the E-series they switched to engines with reduced propeller revs to improve this while (maybe) losing some top speed. I don't know the exact timeframe for this switch, the Bf 110 F/G had those reduced prop rev engines for sure.