150 octane fuel

[Ardy123]

the Meteor saw active service and combat and the Do335 saw neither....

The only service the Meteor saw was chasing v1s... AH doesn't have v1s, so from an AH perspective, it did not see relevant service and might as well not have seen service.

[MiloMorai]

The only service the Meteor saw was chasing v1s... AH doesn't have v1s, so from an AH perspective, it did not see relevant service and might as well not have seen service.

No V1s in Belgium and Holland where Meteors were stationed in 1945.

With the arrival of the Meteor F Mk.III in December 1944 the RAF finally decided that the Meteor was ready for combat over Europe. On 20 January 1945 a flight of four Meteors moved to Melsbrook in Belgium becoming the first Allied jet squadron to operate from the continent. Their initial purpose was to provide air defence for the airfield, but it was also hoped that their presence might provoke the Germans into sending Me 262s against them. At this point the Meteor pilots were still forbidden to fly over German occupied territory, or to go east of Eindhoven, to prevent a downed aircraft being captured by the Germans or the Soviets.

In March 1945 the entire squadron moved to Gilze-Rijen in Holland, and on 13 April moved again to Nijmegen. Finally, on 17 April the Meteor entered combat over Europe, carrying out a ground attack mission near Ijmuiden. For the rest of the war the squadron flew a mix of ground attack and armed reconnaissance missions.

[bangsbox]

No V1s in Belgium and Holland where Meteors were stationed in 1945.

With the arrival of the Meteor F Mk.III in December 1944 the RAF finally decided that the Meteor was ready for combat over Europe. On 20 January 1945 a flight of four Meteors moved to Melsbrook in Belgium becoming the first Allied jet squadron to operate from the continent. Their initial purpose was to provide air defence for the airfield, but it was also hoped that their presence might provoke the Germans into sending Me 262s against them. At this point the Meteor pilots were still forbidden to fly over German occupied territory, or to go east of Eindhoven, to prevent a downed aircraft being captured by the Germans or the Soviets.

In March 1945 the entire squadron moved to Gilze-Rijen in Holland, and on 13 April moved again to Nijmegen. Finally, on 17 April the Meteor entered combat over Europe, carrying out a ground attack mission near Ijmuiden. For the rest of the war the squadron flew a mix of ground attack and armed reconnaissance missions.

sounds to me like NO we dont need a fast ground attack plane. i think people only want this to counter the 262. Why does everyone always want a counter. we got king tiger and people want m26 and is2. we have 262 people want meteor. they are top tier for a reason and dont need counters. so many other planes & tanks should be added first and then maybe in 20+ yrs after 100s of other things are added and there is nothing left for AH to do then ok meteor

[Ardy123]

No V1s in Belgium and Holland where Meteors were stationed in 1945.

With the arrival of the Meteor F Mk.III in December 1944 the RAF finally decided that the Meteor was ready for combat over Europe. On 20 January 1945 a flight of four Meteors moved to Melsbrook in Belgium becoming the first Allied jet squadron to operate from the continent. Their initial purpose was to provide air defence for the airfield, but it was also hoped that their presence might provoke the Germans into sending Me 262s against them. At this point the Meteor pilots were still forbidden to fly over German occupied territory, or to go east of Eindhoven, to prevent a downed aircraft being captured by the Germans or the Soviets.

In March 1945 the entire squadron moved to Gilze-Rijen in Holland, and on 13 April moved again to Nijmegen. Finally, on 17 April the Meteor entered combat over Europe, carrying out a ground attack mission near Ijmuiden. For the rest of the war the squadron flew a mix of ground attack and armed reconnaissance missions.

Cool didn't know that...

[MiloMorai]

sounds to me like NO we dont need a fast ground attack plane. i think people only want this to counter the 262. Why does everyone always want a counter. we got king tiger and people want m26 and is2. we have 262 people want meteor. they are top tier for a reason and dont need counters. so many other planes & tanks should be added first and then maybe in 20+ yrs after 100s of other things are added and there is nothing left for AH to do then ok meteor

Reading comprehension problem?

Was only posted for Ardy's information.

[danny76]

The only service the Meteor saw was chasing v1s... AH doesn't have v1s, so from an AH perspective, it did not see relevant service and might as well not have seen service.

Please let's not get into the "what constitutes combat" argument again

[Krusty]

Not sure where Bustr is getting his rant material, but the K-4 is modeled on well known information and verifiable by many sources. If he's implying we have the C3-fueled 2000hp variant, then he's just plain wrong as well. If he's not implying that... then ... he's clue-less IMO.

[Guppy35]

sounds to me like NO we dont need a fast ground attack plane. i think people only want this to counter the 262. Why does everyone always want a counter. we got king tiger and people want m26 and is2. we have 262 people want meteor. they are top tier for a reason and dont need counters. so many other planes & tanks should be added first and then maybe in 20+ yrs after 100s of other things are added and there is nothing left for AH to do then ok meteor

They just might prefer Allied rides for any number of reasons, mostly historical and want to fly the Allied counter to the Luftwaffe version.    Your logic then suggest that any prop driven Allied ride should be un perked since the only LW birds perked are Jets and the Allies have none.

I'm not anti-Meteor, but more anti end of the war anything since it all becomes about the latest and greatest regardless of their actual impact during WW2.

Understand the Meteor was operational before the 190D9 by a few months.  It beat the K4 into operational status too as well as the Ta152.  Consider the Spitfire XIV and Tempest, both in combat long before any of those three LW birds yet they are perked and the LW birds are not.  If any crowd has the right to gripe it's the RAF guys as their best prop jobs are early 44 entries and they're all perked.  Basically the last of the freebee RAF birds are 1943 era.  And don't say Spit XVI as that's nothing more then a Spitfire LFIX which is 1943

[titanic3]

Guppy, this is a game, there's a reason the Allies won the war, if they got all their 1945 planes with 150 octane, very few would fly Axis planes. Same reason we don't have the AvA as the main arena. Anytime a 1944+ event shows up, the Axis side would get decimated if the Allies have the 150 octane and everything else that boosted their planes.

There's a balance between gameplay and historical accuracy, I think AH has it right. If you add in the 150 octane, it would be historical, but then gameplay would have to be rebalanced. I don't see how it can be balanced without adding an Axis superweapon. Otherwise, all you're going to see is hordes of Allied planes vs hordes of Allied planes.

The game is fine as it is, there's room for improvement, but no need for something as drastic as 150 octane.

[Guppy35]

Guppy, this is a game, there's a reason the Allies won the war, if they got all their 1945 planes with 150 octane, very few would fly Axis planes. Same reason we don't have the AvA as the main arena. Anytime a 1944+ event shows up, the Axis side would get decimated if the Allies have the 150 octane and everything else that boosted their planes.

There's a balance between gameplay and historical accuracy, I think AH has it right. If you add in the 150 octane, it would be historical, but then gameplay would have to be rebalanced. I don't see how it can be balanced without adding an Axis superweapon. Otherwise, all you're going to see is hordes of Allied planes vs hordes of Allied planes.

The game is fine as it is, there's room for improvement, but no need for something as drastic as 150 octane.

It's a game?  No!  Really?

Where did I ask for 150 fuel?  Ive never asked for it, ever.

Ironically what you are saying is we need to cater to the Luftwaffe crowd, or they won't play.  Funny how that works 

[Ardy123]

When I used to fly with the Pigs, Bustr would always tell us about his 150 octane beer farts when he got drunk.... and hell yeah...I ran that watermelon could be smelt over the interdweebs... still not sure how

so I can't support 150 octane... it just gets too smelly....

[bozon]

I'm not anti-Meteor, but more anti end of the war anything since it all becomes about the latest and greatest regardless of their actual impact during WW2.

This.

Having a meteor as an "allied 262" is fine, but it is way way down the bottom of my wish list. For the time being, 262s counter 262s just fine. All 3 chess pieces got the technology.

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if 150 octane fuel was introduced, would not wep/cooldown  change quite some ?

[Bruv119]

save do you truly believe that a lanc with full ord can out turn a 190A8??     let's not get hysterical here. 

I'm more than willing to go to the TA and experiment this with you.   

[titanic3]

It's a game?  No!  Really?

Where did I ask for 150 fuel?  Ive never asked for it, ever.

Ironically what you are saying is we need to cater to the Luftwaffe crowd, or they won't play.  Funny how that works  

Sure, add it, whatever. But when the LW crowd stops playing, that's your problem.

EDIT: Or when a 1945 scenario or FSO comes up, don't whine when you get stuck on the Axis side.