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Offline Zoney

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2014, 11:57:35 AM »
I think it's fun, "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!"
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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2014, 12:04:03 PM »
I am with Wiley on the base defense.  Lots of satisfaction beating back a massive attack.

I hate getting caught with my pants down.  I love it when you have one of those nights when everywhere you turn you have a perfect target.  I hate it equally as much when you have one of those nights where everywhere you turn, you make a perfect target for the red guys.

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2014, 12:20:17 PM »
to me its about the fight not whether i win or lose. its about not ho'ing the guy coming at me, but rather fighting it out and not shooting til you get beyond his 3-9 position. anyone can ho. but can you kill from behind the 3-9 position? thats the challenge! a good fight to me is about getting behind the other guy. thats the fun part, especially if he's good or has a superior plane.

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2014, 12:44:24 PM »
A theme is emerging with regard to defining success....fun.  It's a game obviously so "fun" is the objective.  To change the OP just a bit...how could it be MORE "fun" than it is now?  I know that's a very subjective question but I'd like to try to do my part to make it more fun for the people I encounter in the game.  If it's more "fun" then more people I encounter will feel successful is what I'm getting at, including me.  What would be the fun at the top of your list?  Can the player base make it more "fun" without infringing on others defined "fun"?  I guess that might be impossible or a game culture issue..

There are lots of folks that I see doing this in game and none seem to have more fun than these guys even if it requires them to have lots of beer (Dodger, Lazer, lol).  

fly nekked like dadkev does.  I dont think there isnt anybody that doesnt smile when dadkev is around. 



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you dont want me to ho, dont point your plane at me.

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2014, 12:45:45 PM »
fly nekked like dadkev does.  I dont think there isnt anybody that doesnt smile when dadkev is around. 



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True!!  The nekked wrestler
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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2014, 01:36:27 PM »
AcesHigh success for me is reaching a position of mutual enjoyment of the game between myself and the enemy no matter the outcome of any given engagement. When a group of players can collectively base their enjoyment on the interactions, rather than the outcome, everybody is winning.

Yeah...one can get so competitive in this game if you don't watch yourself. But if you think about, you're playing this game with one of a small minority of other people in love with online ACM...we few, we dweeby few, we band of buggered...
"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2014, 03:30:01 PM »
For those of you that play the game, how do each of you define success, personally, while flying aircraft in AH?  Kills? Beating your best kill streak?  Hitting your exact targets while on a bomb run?  A revenge kill?  A random, unexpected 1 v 1 that got your heart pounding?   Running into superior numbers and making it back?  Beating someone that your usually don't beat?  A successfully planned and executed mission?  Being the air component in a base take?


         success for me is many fold. I like getting a con off of someone to my detriment usually, but if its successful then I'm happy. I feel successful if I can up a plane, fly, engage and Die a glorious death with the never ending bullet hits following me back to the tower. now thats what I call successful. heck I  might even  fly back and actually land after a sortie with kills. If I don't get any kills and land after a sortie I feel successful. Flying with a group of pilots on a raid and helping in most ways is successful to me. Not chasing a con with more than one guy already on him and being able to move on to a better situation is successful for me as well.  Heck Im feeling pretty successful right now.  :banana: you asked... peace.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2014, 03:33:50 PM »
For me, a successful sortie is one where I get turning hard, maneuvering with an opponent, and the fight ends with one of us killing the other. The rest of the sortie is inconsequential to its success.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2014, 03:34:34 PM »
         success for me is many fold. I like getting a con off of someone to my detriment usually, but if its successful then I'm happy. I feel successful if I can up a plane, fly, engage and Die a glorious death with the never ending bullet hits following me back to the tower. now thats what I call successful. heck I  might even  fly back and actually land after a sortie with kills. If I don't get any kills and land after a sortie I feel successful. Flying with a group of pilots on a raid and helping in most ways is successful to me. Not chasing a con with more than one guy already on him and being able to move on to a better situation is successful for me as well.  Heck Im feeling pretty successful right now.  :banana: you asked... peace.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2014, 03:43:14 PM »
success, personally,

For me, its leaving at the end of the night with joy and fun in my soul and heart.
There are all kinds of things that have caused this.

But in the end as long as i left knowing i had fun, that's success.
At lest in MA.
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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2014, 04:07:43 PM »
 I think what I like the most is when I'm trying to help a player out and they all of a sudden get it!  It's like a light turned on or a door opens and they understand what I'm trying to teach them.

 Then the go off and shoot a few planes down and then take the time to come back and tell me about it.  I find this very satisfying! I can no longer do martial arts but I used to teach that and it was something I had a tough time letting go off,but AH has taken it's place and this has been very good for me.




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« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2014, 04:09:02 PM »
         success for me is many fold. I like getting a con off of someone to my detriment usually, but if its successful then I'm happy. I feel successful if I can up a plane, fly, engage and Die a glorious death with the never ending bullet hits following me back to the tower. now thats what I call successful. heck I  might even  fly back and actually land after a sortie with kills. If I don't get any kills and land after a sortie I feel successful. Flying with a group of pilots on a raid and helping in most ways is successful to me. Not chasing a con with more than one guy already on him and being able to move on to a better situation is successful for me as well.  Heck Im feeling pretty successful right now.  :banana: you asked... peace.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Nice!  Are success and max-fun the same for you or is there one thing that is more fun than everything else?
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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2014, 04:09:54 PM »
For me, its leaving at the end of the night with joy and fun in my soul and heart.
There are all kinds of things that have caused this.

But in the end as long as i left knowing i had fun, that's success.
At lest in MA.

Something in game the most fun for you?
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2014, 04:13:25 PM »
I think what I like the most is when I'm trying to help a player out and they all of a sudden get it!  It's like a light turned on or a door opens and they understand what I'm trying to teach them.

 Then the go off and shoot a few planes down and then take the time to come back and tell me about it.  I find this very satisfying! I can no longer do martial arts but I used to teach that and it was something I had a tough time letting go off,but AH has taken it's place and this has been very good for me.




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That is an awesome perspective and one that most us will never know.   What's the most important basic you teach Morf?  Any advice for a vet that you see vets doing the least of?
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: Aerial Combat
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2014, 05:03:31 PM »
That is an awesome perspective and one that most us will never know.   What's the most important basic you teach Morf?  Any advice for a vet that you see vets doing the least of?


 I think the most important 1 is the lift vector and keeping it pointed at or better yet behind the enemy! The sooner you get your lift vector on the enemy the sooner you can turn into him.

   I like to send players off to barrel roll around the offline drone,using the "look up" view or lift vector and practice keeping the drone in that view.

  Once you understand that it's a matter of where the enemy is located on your monitor in that view and you can tell if you are loosing or gaining position on the enemy.


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