If you consider yourself a Top Stick in the game...

[JunkyII]

Gentlemen. It appears I have made two conclusions based on the information provided in this thread.

1. When Junky is liquored up don't give him access to the forums. 

2. Corsair pilotz will never admit that their ride leans towards the EZ mode side of the meter. 

Thank you all for participating! Canada signing out.

 

I consider those both correct

Corsair has the most versatile flight envelope in the game.  Everywhere from high speed BnZ to stallfighting.  Wonderful plane.

Wiley gets it!!!

[DmonSlyr]

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a HO! 

[Simon]

I think the Hog variants are the best overall ride in the game, and my choice for 1 vs 1 against anything, obviously. They can outrun what they can't out-turn, and out-turn what they can't outrun.

Its weaknesses are severe though. Everyone in this thread knows a low, slow or engaged F4U is an easy kill. It's a huge, hard-to-miss air frame with poor visibility, making it ripe for picking, and therefore usually everybody's prime target.

Acceleration is weak, so it's difficult to equalize an energy disadvantage or recover from a mistake. Once you drop flaps you're a sitting duck for everyone and his brother. Fighting multiple cons without holding a clear energy advantage is all but impossible IMO. I think I can hold my own against most, but it's a rare day I beat 2 or more cons at once.

Sure, if you can be disciplined (read: timid) and keep up your SA, the Hog is the jack of all trades. If you run into superior numbers, you're toast.

[Ack-Ack]

Hopefully one day the FM for the F4Us will be fixed.

[Bushmills]

Hopefully one day the FM for the F4Us will be fixed.

Whats wrong with it?

[pipz]

Whats wrong with it?

For one Human use of Alien technology wasn't available until the post WW2 Roswell incident. Hence making the AH Corsair flight model impossible! 

[caldera]

For one Human use of Alien technology wasn't available until the post WW2 Roswell incident. Hence making the AH Corsair flight model impossible! 

"Mister Pipz, that's not entirely correct."

[TequilaChaser]

For one Human use of Alien technology wasn't available until the post WW2 Roswell incident. Hence making the AH Corsair flight model impossible! 

Aces High is coming up on 18 years of being here since it went beta, back in 1999, and these claims of the F4U flight model/modeling being "wrong" "inaccurate" "has Hoover Flaps" etc etc etc has been whined about for just as long!

Knowing the Perfectionist that Dale / hitech, is known to be, when it comes to his work and game.... Would you not think that if something was wrong that hitech would have addressed the problem and fixed it by now?

Keep on beating this dead horse..... I'm sure you can't make it any worse and I figure hitech gets a big ol gut busting chuckle every time he sees this topic about the "F4U flight modeling is inaccurate", pop up on the message boards for the 40,000th time

      

TC

[BBP]

What is junkyII yapping about? I'm just average and I shoot him down regularly. Maybe he is eating to much cake - lol

[awrabbit]

LOL I fly the so called Uber Pony...... alt no alt.. I cant hit watermelon and get my arnold handed to me nearly every time.


but, hey im having fun thats all that matters. 

[Bushmills]

What is junkyII yapping about? I'm just average and I shoot him down regularly. Maybe he is eating to much cake - lol

 

[ACE]

I think the Hog variants are the best overall ride in the game, and my choice for 1 vs 1 against anything, obviously. They can outrun what they can't out-turn, and out-turn what they can't outrun.

Its weaknesses are severe though. Everyone in this thread knows a low, slow or engaged F4U is an easy kill. It's a huge, hard-to-miss air frame with poor visibility, making it ripe for picking, and therefore usually everybody's prime target.

Acceleration is weak, so it's difficult to equalize an energy disadvantage or recover from a mistake. Once you drop flaps you're a sitting duck for everyone and his brother. Fighting multiple cons without holding a clear energy advantage is all but impossible IMO. I think I can hold my own against most, but it's a rare day I beat 2 or more cons at once.

Sure, if you can be disciplined (read: timid) and keep up your SA, the Hog is the jack of all trades. If you run into superior numbers, you're toast.

This is coming from a real true solid Hog pilot right here.

[JunkyII]

What is junkyII yapping about? I'm just average and I shoot him down regularly. Maybe he is eating to much cake - lol

Yea and I'm sure it's like 95% of my deaths....with a bunch of friends to help you out..which is OK, not many of the active pool can beat me 1v1 these days....which is sad because I haven't got any better, if anything worse.

[nrshida]

Whats wrong with it?

I don't know if this is what Ack-Ack meant, but according to Widewing's F4U-flying friend although the stall speed is correct in a real life it is extremely demanding to fly the aircraft in that regime. In AH you can essentially hold the stick back to the stop at the flat stall. Thus although the stall speed is correct, the ease of holding it there is questionable.

Keep on beating this dead horse..... I'm sure you can't make it any worse and I figure hitech gets a big ol gut busting chuckle every time he sees this topic about the "F4U flight modeling is inaccurate", pop up on the message boards for the 40,000th time

Could keep coming up because it is not unfounded.

Would you not think that if something was wrong that hitech would have addressed the problem and fixed it by now?

Rather depends on a lot of factors doesn't it? Perhaps Mr. Tech is unwilling to examine or uninterested in the difficult issue of quantifying a qualitative performance mismatch. Of course the report from the real pilot is anecdotal. Statistical data is comparitivly trivial to match. Perhaps the Corsair is his personal favourite. Perhaps he would not wish to alienate the customers of a popular plane. Difficult to change for the worse once established, no? They'd have a valid point of complaint.

I'd also like to add Simon is a top F4U stick and a gentleman toboot. I myself have seldom flown AH's F4U, but they did constitute about a third of my opponents during my early furbal lake obsession phase. A worthy advesory for any Ki-84 specialist. Certainly made me a better cartoon stick, trying to fight their fight. The two biggest dangers I found being its extremely tight turn radius (exceeding the Hayate, even boards out) and its fantastic energy retention which can be used to counter a superior power-loading. Their ability to drop that nose when slow then scoop enough airspeed to turn it vert and hang there for a long shot was formidable.

My favourite opponent actually. Always admired the AH hog specialists. A lot of skill hard-earned.

[SPKmes]

I am a firm believer of the UF4UO... but the point you bought up about pilot reports is as you anecdotal purely for the reason of flight time comparisons.... had a real pilot had as much flight time as some of the sticks in this game the abilities show could possibly have been recorded as such.... that or there would be a heap of guys with one really large arm and a body and brain destroyed by excessive forces being endured. And that goes for all aircraft used in game

That being said....The chances of finding somebody willing to show the amazing capabilities of this and many other airframes has diminished considerably....we now see and know an airframes top speed and how long it can endure said speed so the speed charts are the thing to study these days...   yes...I am being a cynical bastid!!!