Turning off engine and flop/torque rolls

[DubiousKB]

Do you have a film of that?

Thus far no.   Only my paranoid delusions... But I'm recording all the time now. 

[Zimme83]

I miss the brutal buffeting prior to a a high nose powered stall.

Trying hanging nose-up and point your nose at something ain't going to happen.

Rudders seem to be very effective to counter torque in some planes in AH.

I haven't flown much high-powered planes,  but even flying a 100hp VLA-Cub  for many years give you a more of a hunch how much torque mess with you close to depart  from controlled flying.

Even the torque (and momentum) from a 100hp Engine have a significant effect, the MFI for ex only snap to the left due to the Engine torque, roll rate is also much better to the left. Approaching stall with a 2000 hp Engine at full Power... no thanks...

[icepac]

First time I did a full power on spin in the lowly 150 aerobat, it made such a loud bang, I thought something had come off.

I was going pretty fast at the time.

It was a good lesson to learn you can stall/spin at much higher speeds than the speeds at which most training of stalls occurs.

[cav58d]

First time I did a full power on spin in the lowly 150 aerobat, it made such a loud bang, I thought something had come off.

I was going pretty fast at the time.

It was a good lesson to learn you can stall/spin at much higher speeds than the speeds at which most training of stalls occurs.

http://apstraining.com

If your a professional pilot, see if you can get your company to send you here.  If your a hobbyist, it's not too too bad, a couple thousand I think.  Best course I've ever done in aviation.

[icepac]

That stuff should be required of any pilot beyond VFR light plane SEL.

[colmbo]

That stuff should be required of any pilot beyond VFR light plane SEL.

When I started flying skydivers I had just over 300 hours (basically still an ignorant, limited skill knucklehead).  When I got to thinking about flying just above stall speed with 4 skydivers on the gear leg or hanging from the wing strut while producing bucket loads of drag I could imagine how quickly one could be looking up through the top of the windscreen at mother earth as the spin started.  At the first opportunity I flew to Flagler Beach, Florida and hooked up with The French Connection for some training in spin recovery and recovery from inverted flight.  Quite fun.

About a year later I got to experience and stall and incipient spin as a skydiver hanging from the wing strut on a 182 - not quite as much fun.

[Zimme83]

Most GA pilots that experience a spin does it when low and slow, often when turning final..

[RedBeard]

Just watched a nice video yesterday on aerobatics "training" in the P-51.  It had some good torque effect examples in there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Cwn4Gb3qc

Red Beard
CO 364th C-Hawks