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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #255 on: May 17, 2019, 11:25:29 AM »
Thank you for making my point.

You offered the insult that I lack common sense. YOU initiated this. You defer to insults.

Also, contrary to your self validated role as Forum Moderator, there's no rules. Any one can ask another poster a question at any time. There's no specified internet protocol to wait a certain period of time, some number of minutes/hours/days, before asking or repeating a question.

You’ve fed the troll plenty enough humble pie for one day.   (Well done.)  :salute
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2019, 12:33:39 PM »
Thank you for making my point.

You offered the insult that I lack common sense. YOU initiated this. You defer to insults.

Also, contrary to your self validated role as Forum Moderator, there's no rules. Any one can ask another poster a question at any time. There's no specified internet protocol to wait a certain period of time, some number of minutes/hours/days, before asking or repeating a question.



No buddy. You got it backwards again. You wanted to jump his post but looked like a fool because he hasn’t been online. :rofl. Take that humble pie an eat it. I’ll stick to my pecan. Maybe your buddy will congratulate you on your next post :rofl
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2019, 01:02:58 PM »
Busher are you seriously worried that the 737max crashes are a threat to Boeing's survival? I am surprised if you are. In my opinion the 737max is a short term problem somewhat more costly than the 787 fires but in no way an existential threat.

I think the danger Boeing faces is the potential loss of its engineering culture over the long term if the management changes that are being reported, (reports derided as hit pieces here,) are somewhat accurate. The danger of that is not just that somebody says it is so but that it is so. I guess my point is that if people are worried about some kind of anti Boeing plot destroying the company I frankly think they are completely off base and fundamentally not serious.

Remember that of the Fortune 500 companies that were on the list in 1955 only 60 are still on it today. Large complex industrial companies are very capable of shooting themselves in the foot and reloading, just look at GM, GE, Bethlehem Steel.

If you look at the upwards march of Boeing's earnings over last ten years you can take that at face value as meaning that Boeing is a really well run company that is able to wring efficiency's out of complex manufacturing systems and grow sales or you could wonder where exactly is the fat being trimmed and suspect that they are moving to the wrong side of the engineering/cost cutting line and are setting themselves up to fall behind. I suppose you could believe both at the same time as well.

I think airplane building is a pretty amazing business. So much capital so much need to keep advancing the technology, such high stakes with sales, and potentially such a huge growth in the market coming.

Anyway this is no  De Havilland Comet end of the British Empire moment.

More like the Lockheed Electra, a type with an actual defect.


Airbus was on the mat.    The 380 was a colossal blunder and Boeing was set to dominate the industry for the next decade, hence the onset of a perfectly timed smear campaign.    Never let a manufactured crisis go to waste.
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« Reply #258 on: May 17, 2019, 01:08:57 PM »
...and that everyone has forgotten that the first large aviation regulatory body to ban the MAX was the...? (hint, it maybe somewhere across the pond)
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2019, 02:12:51 PM »
The CAA of China?
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #260 on: May 17, 2019, 02:15:52 PM »
The Duchy of Grand Fenwick's Air Transport Regulation and Balloon Agency.

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« Reply #261 on: May 17, 2019, 04:13:32 PM »
The Duchy of Grand Fenwick's Air Transport Regulation and Balloon Agency.
oh...soooooo close. :D
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #262 on: May 17, 2019, 04:23:58 PM »
...and that everyone has forgotten that the first large aviation regulatory body to ban the MAX was the...? (hint, it maybe somewhere across the pond)

Some award for being first to start "the sky is falling" re-action?
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #263 on: May 17, 2019, 05:06:45 PM »
Some award for being first to start "the sky is falling" re-action?

Yes.  It's called the Knee JERK Award.   EASA wins.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #264 on: May 17, 2019, 06:16:49 PM »
Test post.  Please excuse it.
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #265 on: May 17, 2019, 06:20:04 PM »
Post-test. You may now resume your regular scheduled programming.

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« Reply #266 on: May 17, 2019, 06:45:32 PM »
Post-test. You may now resume your regular scheduled programming.

Tying to cycle my modem IP address.   It’s not doing it.   :bhead
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #267 on: May 17, 2019, 06:49:19 PM »
Tying to cycle my modem IP address.   It’s not doing it.   :bhead

Have you tried turning it off then on again?

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« Reply #268 on: May 17, 2019, 06:54:59 PM »
Have you tried turning it off then on again?

Yeah.   For half an hour.   Darned thing wouldn’t switch.   
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Re: Another 737 down
« Reply #269 on: May 17, 2019, 07:43:22 PM »
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