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Offline whiteman

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2021, 10:03:28 AM »
That's why AvA was popular back in the day

The room had more t&b in it in a day than you could find in a week in MA

If it isn't controlled by plane set or arena limits, you get what we have now in MA

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While it had a higher percentage of T&B players, it also had plenty of those that had no problem getting in the middle of a 1v1. Generally those that made it their home and cried the loudest about people needing to learn to T&B. It wasn't some bastion of 1v1 honor code, there were plenty of scumbags. I spent a lot of time in there, but not to much because of the level of hypocrisy.

Some how back in the day i also found plenty of T&B in the MA, and actually more 1v1.

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #106 on: November 02, 2021, 12:29:26 PM »
While it had a higher percentage of T&B players, it also had plenty of those that had no problem getting in the middle of a 1v1. Generally those that made it their home and cried the loudest about people needing to learn to T&B. It wasn't some bastion of 1v1 honor code, there were plenty of scumbags. I spent a lot of time in there, but not to much because of the level of hypocrisy.

Some how back in the day i also found plenty of T&B in the MA, and actually more 1v1.

I'm thinking, maybe incorrectly, the "back in the day" that Eagler is referring to predates your experiences. 
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #107 on: November 02, 2021, 12:39:31 PM »

I've never understood the unshakable sense of entitlement some players feel to have and uninterrupted 1v1 in the middle of a Massively-Multiplayer-Online-Game combat arena.

Good luck with that.




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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #108 on: November 02, 2021, 02:07:09 PM »
I've never understood the unshakable sense of entitlement some players feel to have and uninterrupted 1v1 in the middle of a Massively-Multiplayer-Online-Game combat arena.

Good luck with that.

Could've sworn there was an arena created for 1v1's...  :bolt:
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #109 on: November 02, 2021, 02:35:57 PM »
Could've sworn there was an arena created for 1v1's...  :bolt:

Apparently, that arena is called "Melee".   :rolleyes: :rofl
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #110 on: November 02, 2021, 03:41:39 PM »
I've never understood the unshakable sense of entitlement some players feel to have and uninterrupted 1v1 in the middle of a Massively-Multiplayer-Online-Game combat arena.

Good luck with that.

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #111 on: November 02, 2021, 07:46:45 PM »
I've never understood the unshakable sense of entitlement some players feel to have and uninterrupted 1v1 in the middle of a Massively-Multiplayer-Online-Game combat arena.


Somehow, I'm not surprised.

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #112 on: November 02, 2021, 08:03:18 PM »
If Hitech changed icons to 3K, It would help slow the ganging phenomenon a tad bit. In all fairness, if you are flying a p40 in the MA. It would be extremely challenging not to get picked by more than 2 planes. It's all about accepting the challenge of the plane you are flying that's not a BnZ type of planes. It is very challenging not to get ganged in the MA, therfore players fly the fastest planes as timidly as possible to avoid the gang. Many don't even understand ACM or how to use defense maneuvers to escape a fight. I always try to drag players out and get them alone, when they come out too deep, then you can attack them for a minute or 2 before the gang comes. If they have the E, try to draw them out away from others and use defense techniques to evade them while moving toward safety. The game is far more challenging in planes that simply can't press E and regain 350 quickly to escape the gang.
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #113 on: November 02, 2021, 08:47:34 PM »
Just because it's a game, players aren't supposed to use real world tactics and instead just use one trick pony gamey maneuvers?  Yes, it's just a game but it is also a combat simulation and real world tactics are just as valid than the one trick pony maneuvers. 

In my opinion it is a lot more sad that the majority of those that cry about the lack of fights or how others fight, don't know squat about BFMs or ACM.  There is more to aerial combat than the overshoot reversal.

Real world tactics vs real world tactics, sure. Ya'll fly around up there at 25K+ and enjoy yourselves. I think to OP is talking about pickers making a pass and "extending" for 2 sectors.

That's why AvA was popular back in the day

The room had more t&b in it in a day than you could find in a week in MA

If it isn't controlled by plane set or arena limits, you get what we have now in MA

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I've been here since tour 21 and I dont remember the AvA EVER being popular. Sure it had some surges but it was never popular to any more than a dozen or 2 guys. FSO, now thats was popular.


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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #114 on: November 02, 2021, 09:09:04 PM »
I've been here since tour 21 and I dont remember the AvA EVER being popular. Sure it had some surges but it was never popular to any more than a dozen or 2 guys. FSO, now thats was popular.


Your memory fails you, dude.  From the time it was called "Combat Theater" until sometime around 2009, it was common to have 40-60 people in the theater every night.  I recall one night (but it was only one) when we exceeded 100.  Granted, the MA(s) was/were drawing far more people, but the AvA had a very devoted following for many years.

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #115 on: November 03, 2021, 06:53:13 AM »

Your memory fails you, dude.  From the time it was called "Combat Theater" until sometime around 2009, it was common to have 40-60 people in the theater every night.  I recall one night (but it was only one) when we exceeded 100.  Granted, the MA(s) was/were drawing far more people, but the AvA had a very devoted following for many years.

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2021, 08:44:40 AM »

Somehow, I'm not surprised.

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LoL.

Good luck with your sense of entitlement.   :rolleyes:
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2021, 09:34:39 AM »

Your memory fails you, dude.  From the time it was called "Combat Theater" until sometime around 2009, it was common to have 40-60 people in the theater every night.  I recall one night (but it was only one) when we exceeded 100.  Granted, the MA(s) was/were drawing far more people, but the AvA had a very devoted following for many years.

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Yeah, I always enjoyed the CT/AvA - flew them quite a bit.

In the MA I'm more about the la7, where in the AvA, because the matchups were more equal, I flew a lot more variety of both allied/axis planes. The matchups were fun, and challenging when icon and radar settings were adjusted, which they often were, lol.
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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #118 on: November 03, 2021, 12:17:31 PM »
Would rather be in a 109f but you don't make it back to base as the faster plane gang usually can catch you

Too bad a barrier doesn't pop up to keep the pickers out of a close t&b

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Re: Unsportsmanlike game play
« Reply #119 on: November 03, 2021, 02:07:41 PM »
That's why I like the 9T, has a good turn to the right and the 37mm has a long reach. Had a pair of ponies try the drop and extend on me in the weekend and was rewarded with a nice double.