Author Topic: Why no HE-111??? (Read 1726 times)

brady · « **Reply #45 on:** October 02, 2002, 01:51:34 AM »

lol:)

straffo · « **Reply #46 on:** October 02, 2002, 03:32:19 AM »

HE 177 ? you mean that :

Staga · « **Reply #47 on:** October 02, 2002, 05:19:32 AM »

Could be funnier if we could under-stand(sp?) the caption

straffo · « **Reply #48 on:** October 02, 2002, 05:54:21 AM »

I will try

Last time I posted this kind of picture it took me about 10 message to get something half funny

I've showed it to a collegue (frenh too ) at work ...he got only one of the 3 jokes in the captions

the 2 other passed right over his head

for your viewing pleasure :

milnko · « **Reply #49 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:33:28 AM »

Discovery Wings had a recent episode on the He111.

Seems everyone here has neglected to mention that the Luftwaffe "required" that the He111 be able to dive bomb. (for support of ground troops)

Personally I'm much better at dive bombing than I am at "straight/level, sit still for enemy" bombing.

So I'd probably get more use of the He111 than I do now with the current medium buffs.

Wilbus · « **Reply #50 on:** October 02, 2002, 10:37:04 AM »

The Ju88 was required to work as a dive bomber aswell, and it was much better at it.

Use the dive brakes and you can dive very very steep in it without getting overspeed in AH.

brady · « **Reply #51 on:** October 02, 2002, 12:03:21 PM »

The JU 88 is a dive bomber, excelent one at that, deploy tose dive flaps and she huvers:)

The He 177 was also dive capable, seams the Germans were kind stuck on that feature:)

whgates3 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 02, 2002, 09:59:56 PM »

why not add the IL 4 & pretend its an He111 - planes are quite similar in appearance & preformance

hyena426 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 03, 2002, 01:24:15 AM »

only thing is he111 carries about twice the bomb load,,but they are close ,both slow and tuff,,,think he111 gots better range

whgates3 · « **Reply #54 on:** October 03, 2002, 03:29:10 AM »

IL 4 is a bit fast, has less devensive armament than He 111. max load for IL4 was 2500 kg, He 111 could carry 3250 kg, but only w/ RATO. also IL 4 had radial engines and He 111's were inline

theNewB · « **Reply #55 on:** October 03, 2002, 06:12:18 PM »

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Originally posted by hyena426
i know how you feal ring,,{were is the he111?},,,he111 does need to be here,,and was very importaint to ww2,,,sure we all wanna see newer hardly used bombers!!,,but we need the main line ones first,,before we start runing experimental bombers and fighters that were hardly used or produced,,he111 was a good plane and had way better firepower than a ju88 and carried more than a ju88,,ju88 is bad representation for he111,,,,he111 did tons more than a ju88 could dream of doing,,,he111 was used till the 1950s by spain,,good plane no matter what people think of it:)

He-111 was more of a part of BoB then the Ju-88.People complain that you cant shoot anything down with 7mm.i can its very simple.just point and shoot (not gonna tell where if you wanna know)the ju88 is a good plane yes but we need the He-111.not just cause its bigger cause it played a more vital part in the war.always did and always will.the he-117 HELL NO talk about major crap (sorry my Fatherland!)it was worthless junk.i think most ppl with A/C knowledge will take the he-111 over the 117 anyday.the 111 was the most important bomber for the geramans so we need it.the ju-88 was a better night fighter then bomber IMO.the fact is we need more german light and medium bombers.who cares about heavy ones.unless you a heavy dweeb

i love to fly bombers and the he-111 has always been my fav.hyena states a good point listen to the man.(thou he is a hippie......yet so am i

)well im done.NOTE: dont want to Pee off anyone or offend.

Wilbus · « **Reply #56 on:** October 03, 2002, 07:13:29 PM »

The Fact is the Ju 88 was about the best bomber germany had, it was far better then the He111, carried a bigger load faster, speed is always what is most important. The Ju88 also served as night fighter which probarly gives it a more important role in the war.

As for the He177 (not 117

) it was a good plane with engine flaws. As pointed out before most problems were fixed for the A5 version, it carried exelent defencive armament, good bomb load and pretty fast. Did some successfull raids on Airfields in russia.

Arlo · « **Reply #57 on:** October 03, 2002, 07:29:56 PM »

Which is still an uber vs. historical and theater flexibility argument. The He-111 just plain has more on it's resume'.

whgates3 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 04, 2002, 03:20:36 AM »

if we're just looking for a LW bomber w/ big load & decent 'resume' how about FW-200. could carry > 5000 kg, had a good supply of defensive armament, partook in Bo'B. sure it came apart easy, but no bomber A/C is going to stand up to interceptor attack w/out escort

Wilbus · « **Reply #59 on:** October 04, 2002, 04:09:43 AM »

Problem with Fw 200 was that it was very fragile, it set up many record flights before the war, it had extreemly good range. But broke up easily.