Author Topic: Simple request to HTC (Read 2924 times)

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #15 on:** November 24, 2002, 09:09:26 AM »

Maybe you're right Frenchy. But maybe if they listened to each persistent, whiny, voice they would go nuts and feel completely disheartened about what they were doing.

But like you say, each to their own interpretation.

minus · « **Reply #16 on:** November 24, 2002, 09:16:19 AM »

frenchy, since when are LW fans specializedv on alied planes ?

we have hard time when we tray something about LW stuf and now we have to know alied ? ask some whiners about whine they know everything

Wotan · « **Reply #17 on:** November 24, 2002, 02:08:07 PM »

Define compression Frenchy. Naudet posted a chart that showed dive speed of the 190 and its handling characteristics at various speeds. So yes the jug compresses before the 190.

Why should those who fly lw planes worry about a jug or any other plane they dont fly. Heres a test for you take up typhie and dive it and compare that to a 190 or any other plane.

To the rest of you guys who post these threads. Its clear you are nothing but a joke to those in ah. No more posts or charts or any evidence presented will be looked at with anything but contempt. Your issues are not important. No amount of "punting" or re-posting will change that.

The only advice I can offer is move on to something else. Banging your head against the wall only makes you more bitter. With the 20-30 folks in ah who prefer lw planes theres no need to cater to them. It would appear that some folks would be more then happy to see you gone from ah. No one will miss 20-30 folks.

straffo · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2002, 02:34:12 PM »

Concerning comparing the dive of a 190 or a typhoon I'm still waiting on the start of the begin of the beginnings of an evidence that it should be different.

HoHun · « **Reply #19 on:** November 24, 2002, 03:34:58 PM »

Hi Frenchy,

>Are the FWs suppose to compress after the P47?

Yes. The Focke-Wulfs could go to about Mach 0.76 before compressibility effects showed, while the P-47D without dive flaps was out of control at Mach 0.73. (Though you didn't ask for them, the Messerschmitts were tested to Mach 0.79 in similar out-of-control dives.)

The dive flaps fitted to the later P-47D variants helped recovery in a similar way as those of the P-38 (which entered compressiblity at Mach 0.65).

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Imp · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2002, 03:35:28 PM »

If its wrong then it should be fixed plain and simple.

P.S.: Not sayin anything is wrong since I dont have a clue

Wotan · « **Reply #21 on:** November 24, 2002, 05:37:18 PM »

Straffo you can look it up on your own. its been posted before.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #22 on:** November 24, 2002, 07:13:50 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
does 190 d9 still compress alot earlyer at all alts than a8?

Not only that, also D9 roll rate is noticeabity lower than A8/A5.

K98k · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2002, 09:59:12 PM »

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(Though you didn't ask for them, the Messerschmitts were tested to Mach 0.79 in similar out-of-control dives.)

ya know, several AH P47s augered trying to run me down when I dove my G10 straight for the dirt. I was able to pull out of dive but some 47 drivers weren't so fortunate.

straffo · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2002, 01:16:42 AM »

I've look it up == nothing

fffreeze220 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2002, 03:51:05 AM »

When u guys get it.

This is an US game made from US people for US people.
We will never get german or russian or biritsh planes that are near to reality. what will the avergae US user say if his F6 or P51 doesnt have lazer aiming super jfk mega HT proved .50cal bullets that kill with 10 pings.

I got it nd dont care anymore. Qauke rules the world

Naudet · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2002, 05:44:55 AM »

Freeze, even though you are one of my squaddies i have to disagree with you.

I have brough up a lot of FW190 issues, but with all the questions i had regarding AH's FW190D9, we should not forget that AH has the most accurated D9 compared to any other Flighsim.

The things that need a look into with the D9 are (from my viewpoint):

-dive characteristics, especially compression and high speed elevator authority

-zoom characteristics

-roll rate, all FW should roll the same (with small differences in initial roll if outboard cannons are installed)

-actuall engine power curves for the AH D9, this is just a matter of interest, i would really like to know which power output ist used for WEP speed/climb and which for full throttle speed/climb

those are the points that need clarification, in some cases, such as zoom and roll, they are points that need to be cleared in conjunction with those performance issues on other planes.

On the other hand i thing the following points need no discussion anymore:
-speed/climb numbers are correct
-flat turning characteristics seem also to be correct

hazed- · « **Reply #27 on:** November 25, 2002, 07:54:55 AM »

Loook at you guys!! away you go again on the same subjects.

we dont need to argue it out in this thread again ffs.

Hitech so basically you are telling me to shut up and still not even hinting at your companies view on the whole subject?

Well to be perfectly honest i think its fairly out of order to do this.

Perhaps its time you made it clear just what you do think of anything I or others come in here to ask about, from your answer i get an impression you feel nothing but contempt for me.If you dont give a toss what we put up here(as it appears) then do us a favour and tell us.I for one would be glad to stop bothering to test stuff if im aware it will not be listened to or even checked.

Im fairly annoyed by that reply to be honest.I certainly dont consider myself particularly bad/heavy in my demands or requests.Most subjects I have posted about have been backed by information I have gathered and sources are always listed.Most are questions which anyone would ask once they read the clips ive found.Jesus , whats wrong with asking? isnt this the whole point of this forum??

I still have never received a decent answer to the majority of my questions.Usually a criptic line or two which only confuses me and others in the thread even more.

190a8 climb from 25k to 35k is nothing like that listed in books although up to 25k its close(BUT still just under listed times)

I asked again and again and never recieved a reply.So i dropped it

The cooling times question i asked I tried my damndest to understand your explanation but I still dont have a clear indication of the reasons for the differing times in AH.

After trying for a long time I dropped it again. Well im still reading this forum and again and again i see the same subjects churned up and each time , although annoyed a little more I hope to see something said.Well I was trying to end this endless wait here and instead of saying 'its being checked' or ' its not' you choose to tell me too shut up. Real nice that.

AtmkRstr · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2002, 08:26:04 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
Take your own advise.

HiTech

HT you must be in a bad mood. That was a rude, unprofessional reply which didn't directly answer the question either. Hazed was being very polite in trying to put an end to these squeeky wheels and therefore make your game better, and you basicly tell him to shut up. I wonder if you have the guts to apologize. Maybe you could answer the question while you're at it.

Atomic Rooster

straffo · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2002, 08:40:48 AM »

AtmkRstr would you be kind enought to read last 3 year posts in this forum please ?