Simple request to HTC

[Wotan]

It had already been established that the N.A.C.A.22-series wing section employed by the Typhoon was entirely satisfactory at speeds in the vicinity of 400 m.p.h. but encountered compressibility effects at higher speeds. In dives approaching 500 m.p.h. a very sudden and sharp increase in drag was experienced, accompanied by a change in the aerodynamic characteristics of the fighter, which affected the pitching moment and rendered the machine nose heavy.

The typhie also fell apart in high speed dives.

The tail problems turned out to be due to elevator flutter and were cured by modifying elevator balance, but this didn't happen until very near to the end of the war. Since nobody knew what was causing the trouble before that time, a distinctive row of "fish plates" was attached in a ring around the fuselage just ahead of the horizontal tailplane as an interim measure to keep the tail on.

Heres something for the folks who are always saying lw aircraft caught fire alot.

However, the Sabre never managed to overcome its tendency to catch on fire on startup, with 28 Typhoons burned up in this fashion during 1944 and 1945. A well-known painting of a Typhoon in colors worn in the late summer of 1944 features the following text marked on the aircraft's radiator:

   IF THIS ENGINE CATCHES FIRE ON STARTING,
   DON'T JUST WAVE YOUR ARMS AT THE PILOT --
   TRY PUTTING THE BLOODY THING OUT AS WELL.

In the first nine months of its service life far more Typhoons were lost through structural or engine troubles than were lost in combat, and between July and September 1942 it was estimated that at least one Typhoon failed to return from each sortie owing to one or other of its defects. Trouble was experienced in power dives--a structural failure in the tail assembly sometimes resulted in this component parting company with the rest of the airframe. In fact, during the Dieppe operations in August 1942, when the first official mention of the Typhoon was made, fighters of this type bounced a formation of Fw 190s south of Le Treport, diving out of the sun and damaging three of the German fighters, but two of the Typhoons did not pull out of their dive owing to structural failures in their tail assemblies.

These arent random failures but even so I just dove offline 3 times in a typh and pegged the speed. I dove well over 500mph and pulled out otd with just some moderate wing creaking. No compression at all.

You must not have looked very hard straffo. I am sure someone will post mach numbers for the typhie.

[Duedel]

Dear hazed, dear HTC,

I rarly make statements about 190' 152's and so on. I rarly squeak about something cause I dont like squeaking in an public forum.
I rather like to see facts and good discussions (as in many newer threads here).

Hazed, I read ur initial post and must say that it is a polite and  kind question and a good manner to stop all this posting, asking, (squeaking) about 190's and 152's.

It would have been a good chance to rule off all these topics by simply saying:

Yes we'll take a look in the near future.

This chance was not taken (by HTC) and I really asking me why?
Sometimes it's simply better to bite the bullet and be pleasent instead of saying (posting) cryptical statements, particularly if u are the leader of a respectable company.

[straffo]

Look up the serial of our typhoon : she's a late 1944 tyffie

[straffo]

some 109 got fish plates aswell ...I've some pict showing 190-A2 engine burning ...

[straffo]

sorry for the short answer but my ISP blow when I do long posts

[moot]

Hazed,

About the WEP temperatures:
Basically HT implied there were, within the different possible settings out of the factory, by the ground crew, in flight, for how much wep // how long // etc many plausible models to choose from for each plane.
So it's probably more complicated still than the reasons behind decisions like no AUX tank till 75% global fuel for P51D yet AFT/WING tanks of 152 filled even at 25% global, or that the fuel types used differ from each plane as well.
Probably same story as putting all planes in same cockpit units of measurements so as to kill 50 birds with one stone: mph/kph-etc misunderstandings in MA coms, no need to rememorize cockpit instrumentation from plane to plane, etc.

As for features that just dont make sense like the 152 seemingly not having a GM1 turned on, when it was pretty much the purpose of the plane design, then who knows? Maybe they at HTC don't have information to model it correctly like they don't for the A20 bomber rear bottom turret art, maybe this, maybe that, shake an eight ball.

[Wotan]

Straffo I am talking about dive speed. The other stuff was to show what a pos the typh was. They were looking to cancel it in 41 but the damn fw was to fast for the spits.

The fish plates didnt solve the problem of the typhie falling apart.

The ah typh can get well over 500mph in a dive with no noticable effect on its flight characteristics.

[AtmkRstr]

Originally posted by straffo
AtmkRstr would you be kind enought to read last 3 year posts in this forum please ?

I've been reading them on and off for about 2 years, 9 months. Since Jan or Feb 2000.

[Imp]

What did HT's comment mean????

P.S: Im a Canadian Frog so please be gentle

[straffo]

she's not a pos, she's damm sexiest than any FW

[RatPenat]

Originally posted by fffreeze220
When u guys get it.

This is an US game made from US people for US people.
We will never get german or russian or biritsh planes that are near to reality. what will the avergae US user say if his F6 or P51 doesnt have lazer aiming super jfk mega HT proved .50cal bullets that kill with 10 pings.

I got it nd dont care anymore. Qauke rules the world

F4U climbs as a pig when climb rate was better A8, as good D9 and A5. Acceleration worse all Fw's.
My second rides are Fw's but they are all porked, that is why i don't fly it.
P47 & F4U have allways mounted rack of bombs (10 mph/h less ALLWAYS)
Where is Ki84?

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Wotan

However, the Sabre never managed to overcome its tendency to catch on fire on startup, with 28 Typhoons burned up in this fashion during 1944 and 1945. A well-known painting of a Typhoon in colors worn in the late summer of 1944 features the following text marked on the aircraft's radiator:


Sabre was very unreliable and sufferred frequent loss of power due to rapid wear around the sleeve valve system (very temperature sensitive)..........similar problem on the Halifax IIIb  which used a radial (Bristol Centaurus??) which also used a sleeved valve set up....... (later found on the Sea Fury)


http://www.eagle.ca/~harry/aircraft/tempest/sabre/

edit....

This article suggests that the problem "went away" when Bristol took over manufacture od the sleeves............. My father worked on the Bristol radial on the Halifax.........he did not think much of them........and got ground crews to do regular checks on sleeve valves between missions......

[Wotan]

she's not a pos, she's damm sexiest than any FW

Must be a French thing, like smelly women and snails

[moot]

Hey Wotan,
I have this crate of canned snail for squad night, where do you want it?

[Wotan]

oops Sry moot,

You indeed have good taste. My Stereotype is clearly wrong in your case

No smelly snails for me though thnx