I applaud everyone who seeks out relevant data and posts and just asks if this was the reference for which the plane was modeled by how accurate the test data is, etc. I.E., stick with the facts.
However, I have the same Ta-152 book and numerous books and accounts of dogfights between allies and axis pilots from either perspective and the whole idea that, for example, the Ta-152 is porked because of the dogfight on the deck where he shot down a Tempest pilot is ABSOLUTELY irrelevant. I say that because we don't know:
1) Were both pilots equal in skill and training both in terms of pilot proficiency and their knowledge of their aircraft.
2) What were the loadouts of the aircraft during the engagement? Do we have the ammo and fuel loads at the time of the engagement?
3) What were the conditions of both aircraft? Was one of them already damaged? Were they both operating nominally?
4) What were their respective turn rates? Their speeds? The corner speeds for the two aircraft are going to be different and without knowing where the planes were fighting in that regard, we can assume that in the fight, the Ta-152 was in the part of the flight envelope where his turn rate exceeded the Tempests, but without knowing the actual numbers, it is pure guess work. It does NOT mean the Ta-152 could out turn a Tempest OTD at all speeds (It might be able to, I haven't computed the actual numbers, I am just saying we don't know based on this account).
I'm not saying we can't get a feel for how planes handled, as with flight test data, or problems that were common based on combat pilot reports. But to use anecdotal information without access to the actual data at the time doesn't serve a constructive purpose. Now, if you said for for a Tempest on the Deck here is it's turn rate vs speed and for a Ta-152H here is the graph for turn rate vs speed OTD and could show where the two differed for given loadouts in AH, you could have a point. But, as such, you have to present it in an objective fashion.
I know some of you here have done exactly that. I am just posting this for those who aren't aware of that. I have always seen HTC respond to actual objective data when presented as such.
As for the Ta-152H otd, I wouldn't be caught OTD in one. Anyone who has a clue will just out scissor you and blow you away.
