Author Topic: luffwobble abuse? (Read 10957 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #270 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:12:22 PM »

DJ this thread is an obvious example that illustrates my point perfectly.

Cobra · « **Reply #271 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:17:06 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
DJ this thread is an obvious example that illustrates my point perfectly.

To be honest Grun, it illustrates the luft-thing just as perfectly.

Cobra

PS...When this gets to 300, BAN BATDOG!...and make Funked QUIT because he likes the Raiders

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #272 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:19:54 PM »

YOu raised a stink about it Grun, and I debunked your statement that the "conspiracy theory is only a means to insult people" and is in fact quite real.

Using my replies as a means to show that everyone is out to get the poor LW is far from giving you any advantage in this discussion.

If anything, it proves that some of those things you say don't exist do in fact exist amongst many LW fans and thusly hurts your argument.

But, keep on complaining... it's funny as hell to read.
-SW

funkedup · « **Reply #273 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:23:38 PM »

BAN COBRA OR I QUIT!!!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #274 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:24:20 PM »

All your posts show SW is a bunch of frusrtated "luftwhine" type people whining, they also show a second group of people that largely show us why the first group is so frustrated and hostile.

And again your the only guys brining up conspirascy, odd isnt it?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #275 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:24:31 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
DJ this thread is an obvious example that illustrates my point perfectly.

No Grun, it actually does nothing to prove any point. You've gone out of your way to ensure that.

Once again grun... just back up the statement. Get the data. Put the time in to support your statement. If you don't want to do that, you're being lazy and you're simply whining. Sorry to say that, but its true.

AKDejaVu

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #276 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:30:02 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
All your posts show SW is a bunch of frusrtated "luftwhine" type people whining, they also show a second group of people that largely show us why the first group is so frustrated and hostile.

The first group wrought the second group. There's plenty of anti-whiners out there... anytime complains about the game, company, or players they get nailed by someone. You only want to see one side of the issue, that's fine... but don't think just because you have a convenient name made up for you, you are the only group. Luft Waffe... LuftWhine... hey, if you can find something more convenient lemme know..

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And again your the only guys brining up conspirascy, odd isnt it? [/B]

Not really, "you guys" are the only ones insinuating there is something against the LW and in favor of the allies.

If it's odd you get called out for something that is being insinuated by you, then I guess it is odd... but if I said "HTC always ignores LW threads", I would expect to be called out for hinting that there's a bias (hence conspiracy) against LW planes.
-SW

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #277 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:30:05 PM »

DJ I got my point accross and were making progress where it counts, with people who are realizing there is a problem here and are satisfied discussion is under way and wish to move forward. Im happy and this is good progress for the community. As for your questions again I tell you just read over this tread and the other one for the style of attacking rsponse and calls of luftwhiner and conspiracy.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #278 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:34:04 PM »

SW the calls of conspiracy really seem to be just something made up as insult, a very good one I admit as conspiracy nuts are very funny.

And like i said the 'luftwhiner" thing is just feeding on itself. Whatever merit it may have had as joke one day is now completly sucked up in a cycle of inflating hostility and needless insults even to people and ideas and questions that dont deserve it.

Toad · « **Reply #279 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:38:00 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
And Toad I find it funny how you think what were saying are "baseless accusations" how exactly do you know what somebodys experience here is when they are being made fun of and harrased like this- especially when you and your friends are often the attackers?

Just catching up to this thread and starting at the top.

Here's a COMMON baseless accusation by those you purport to defend against "attacks"...

"HTC is biased against LW aircraft and biased in favor of allied aircraft".

THAT is a baseless accusation that has OFTEN been made.

If someone points this out, you view it as an "attack". Horsedoobers. The "ATTACK" is made by the person accusing HTC of bias.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #280 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:39:51 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
SW the calls of conspiracy really seem to be just something made up as insult, a very good one I admit as conspiracy nuts are very funny.

Mandoble clearly said that the 190A5 was dumbed down immediately after whining about it's vertical manuevering abilities.

If you can't see that's obviously a smack at saying there's a bias (hence conspiracy), then I really want to know what you think it is. Frustration or not, keep that crap to yourself... you ain't helping anyone's cause with it.

That ain't the only instance, but it's a perfect example. But, like I been saying... you only want to see the side of the issue you agree with...

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And like i said the 'luftwhiner" thing is just feeding on itself. Whatever merit it may have had as joke one day is now completly sucked up in a cycle of inflating hostility and needless insults even to people and ideas and questions that dont deserve it.

If someone is LuftWhining, they deserve to be called on it. If they aren't LuftWhining, then they don't deserve to be called on it.
-SW

hitech · « **Reply #281 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:40:07 PM »

DJ, I could go grab a few, last one in my mind wasn't LW but one with mitsu & flap lift comes to mind.

And quite frankly your not helping this case.

On the just a game comment, your correct it's just a game to you gentlemen,and my job is to make it that way as much as possible,but to me it's food.

And we are not discussing the game dynamics here but wrather community dynamics, which for HTC is part of the food equeation.

BTW on a personal note, what generaly will get a person ignored the most be me, is if they post in a demanding tone. The only thing any player has a right to demand from us , is to close there account when they wish.

The only releationship we realy have is we provide a service & software, players provide $15. Any changes to the game can not be demanded by players, post that request a change will get our attention much faster.

It's just basic golden rule stuff.

HiTech

Toad · « **Reply #282 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:44:52 PM »

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Back to reality...this is a GAME!

If a game is making you feel this way then you probably got lot bigger problems than being labeled a luftwhiner.

Bingo, Funked?

More like "Largest Ever Powerball Jackpot Winner"

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #283 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:45:36 PM »

Sorry HiTech, but contrary to popular belief, I don't do everything simply to make you happy.

Once again, I simply ask that a link is posted that shows a LuftWaffe fan posting an unbiased level headed assesment of a problem in the game and getting flamed for it.

I find it ironic that you could only think of an IJN example, when someone else is trying to show it only happens to LW fans.

AKDejaVu

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #284 on:** January 02, 2003, 05:48:09 PM »

Toad like I said before this it not a discussion about game FM or damage model - the issue is how people interact and the community. That will effect people because even though there is computer in between us in the ed its just people communicating and interacting. So I think his statement is in error concering the issues here.