Author Topic: In Britain we've never had more than 100 gun murders in any year (Read 2338 times)

Nashwan · « **Reply #90 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:07:34 PM »

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We are also allowed to keep more of what we make. What our government spends the money we give them is not relevant to the thread.

Where does the government get it's money? It doesn't matter if they blow it all on potatos, that's the proportion of the US economy (ie your money) your government spends. When you add in locally raised state taxes, it's higher than in Britain.

The US government takes money from it's citizens, the corporations they own, and borrowings. If the government is taking less than 18.43% tax (I left out the 4 first time) then they are borrowing it. Government borrowing is your borrowing. You "own" part of that debt.

lazs2 · « **Reply #91 on:** January 09, 2003, 01:56:49 PM »

Are you saying that people in GB get to keep more of their income than people in the U.S.?

I have nothing against the british. I simply haven't found much about their country that I find Iwould like to have here. I like our idea of personal freedom better is all.
lazs

Dowding · « **Reply #92 on:** January 09, 2003, 04:00:01 PM »

Well I hope you can understand the way I reacted, Steve.

The last few months have been a bit stupid, here in the O-club.

Airhead · « **Reply #93 on:** January 09, 2003, 04:14:19 PM »

Dowding- If the Brits have always been our allies, then why did you guys sink the Maine in Liverpool in 1898????

Dowding · « **Reply #94 on:** January 09, 2003, 04:25:10 PM »

I was bored, and it was a very tempting target for a prank.

There I was having a stroll along the docks, avoiding the advances of perverted sailors, when suddenly this huge ship hoved into view. I said to myself 'What's this?'. Well there it was, just sort of parked, and so I went aboard. The rest, as they say, is history.

Looking back, some 105 years later, perhaps it was a silly thing to do. But it was during my wild youth, and who hasn't done some silly things as a child?

Airhead · « **Reply #95 on:** January 09, 2003, 05:52:57 PM »

I forgive you, Dowding, but you ought not to have blamed it on the Spanish cause we got pissed and beat the stuffing out of them.

Speaking of perverted sailors, this reminds me of a joke... A pirate walks into a bar and he has a steering wheel stuffed down the front of his pants. He says "Barkeep, gives me a beer."

The bartender brings him a beer and says "Hey, did you know you have a steering wheel stuffed down the front of your pants?"

The pirate says "Aye matey, it's drivin' me nuts."

eskimo2 · « **Reply #96 on:** January 09, 2003, 06:10:15 PM »

In Britain, a few hundred years ago, most sports were banned. Playing sports took time away from archery. Archery was the one sport that was encouraged. Britain wanted a well armed, very skilled population. A country of experienced archers meant a very effective army. (Sorry, I can't recall where I read this...)

It's ironic that this same country practically bans gun ownership.

Just an observation.

eskimo

maddog · « **Reply #97 on:** January 09, 2003, 06:56:17 PM »

I'm surprised more chefs arent killed over there........

Angus · « **Reply #98 on:** January 09, 2003, 09:20:59 PM »

Somebody asked whether British policemen carry a firearm.
Well, as far as I know, generally not.
Its been a long time since civil war or hoodlums were ruling life, and the necessity of personal archery knowledge has now lost it's spark.
Today, guns in general are not banned in the UK, neither are all guns to be banned, but some types of them are, and some people can carry none at all. Getting guns will be harder, especially handguns (I belive..?)
It may be hard for the Americand to understand that, since the British have very much less violent crimes in all capital categories already (Murder, Rape and armed robberies).
But the Brits want to improve the status even further, and I must say that such an effort should be looked at with respect rather than mocking it, and off all people, the Americans should look at this attempt as something to learn from, since they seem to have about the worst capital crime statistics in the western world.
Doesn't seem to may that the way of the gun is doing a good job there at least.
So once again, a Hurray to that theme park called Britain.
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Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #99 on:** January 10, 2003, 12:00:06 AM »

lol Airhead - I actually haven't heard that before.

Eskimo - it would only be ironic if Britain lacked a standing army, like it did back then. During the middle ages (when a good company of archers was worth its weight in gold), conscription of the general populace was the only way an army was created. Fortunately, these days we have one of the best trained professional armies of the world, even if their rifles are crap.

Also, I don't think sports were banned per se, only that Sundays had to be used for target practice - previously a time for sport.

Thankyou Angus my Icelandic farming friend. Is it cold up there at the moment?

I once saw a program about 'Glacier Safari' in Iceland, where they take huge monster truck things onto the ice and drive around, before stopping for a pic-nic. Looked a laugh. Especially where they reinflated a tyre using light fluid.

lazs2 · « **Reply #100 on:** January 10, 2003, 11:19:47 AM »

angus... people in solitary confinement are safe too. It's all a matter orf degree. At one time the soviet Union had and extremely low crime rate.

solitary confinement... old soviet union... england... U.S.A. hmm... U.S.A. seems the best comprimise to me.
lazs

X2Lee · « **Reply #101 on:** January 10, 2003, 03:51:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
. If not for Roosevelt, USA might have stayed out completely or even been on the German Side,

I consider this an insult.

All I have to say now is consider yourself damn lucky we were on your side.
You prevailed when you most certainly would not have.