Author Topic: Convince Me! (Read 2160 times)

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #60 on:** February 16, 2003, 03:36:49 AM »

Hortlund, why are they not in a position to make demands?

Afterall, the country of Israel was built on Palestine. The land was taken from them by force, Israel is occupying thier country.

They actually have the right be there, not Israeli's. I'm often wondering why they bother with the constant war there.. I guess they're counting the Palestinians will be holocausted slowly but surely.

Hortlund · « **Reply #61 on:** February 16, 2003, 03:41:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Hortlund, why are they not in a position to make demands?

Afterall, the country of Israel was built on Palestine. The land was taken from them by force, Israel is occupying thier country.

They actually have the right be there, not Israeli's. I'm often wondering why they bother with the constant war there.. I guess they're counting the Palestinians will be holocausted slowly but surely.

I am so not getting into this one right now. Do a search on my username and the key words "Israel", "International law" or "West bank" and you will find out why you are wrong and why they are in no position to make any demands.

What you should remember is this:
1) There never were any nation called Palestine
2) The land was never taken from the "Palestinians" (technically there are no Palestinians either..they are "arabs") parts of current Israel was "given" by the UK, other parts were conquered by Jordan, abandoned and then occupied by Israel.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #62 on:** February 16, 2003, 03:58:26 AM »

Hortlund if nobody would have taken away anything from anyone, nobody would be fighting for the living space there daily as it happens.

Even if there was no country of 'Palestine' the people were actually living there. They were pushed out of the area when Israel was created, and this is simply the root of the whole problem.

If you live in a piece of land someone else owns, but you have no choice than stay there.. And the land owner suddenly chooses to give your house away to someone else, who then repeatedly evicts you away from your new homes in order to grab more space.. Well you can figure out your emotions, can't you?

Then when you get po'd and fight back, you get closed to a small confinement under military guard and you can't even take a crap without having to pass several body searches on the way.. Nobody would accept that.

Hortlund · « **Reply #63 on:** February 16, 2003, 04:00:01 AM »

As I said, I dont want to get into this, at least not in this thread. If you feel strongly about this then start another thread, I'll answer you there.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #64 on:** February 16, 2003, 04:06:49 AM »

I don't believe you could even if you tried Hortlund, but thanks for the offer anyway.

Curval · « **Reply #65 on:** February 16, 2003, 04:46:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
I don't believe you could even if you tried Hortlund, but thanks for the offer anyway.

LOL...do the search man. Trust me...Hortlund can argue that issue.

Hortlund · « **Reply #66 on:** February 16, 2003, 06:30:12 AM »

Ok, back on topic. I think it can be summed up in this one sentence:

The appeasement of dictators to have "peace now" leads to a much worse war in the future.

Nashwan · « **Reply #67 on:** February 16, 2003, 06:55:46 AM »

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Well, the Palestinians should ask themselves this question:
"Are we better off now, or would we be in a better situation if we would have accepted the proposal?"

They'd be in the same position.

The Barak deal left too much opportunity for extremists on both sides to escalate the conflict. They would have done so by now.

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The Palestinians are not, and were never, in any position where they can make demands. The sooner they realize this the better.

They are, just as much as Israel is.

There will be no peace until Israel and the Palestinians agree a compromise deal.

The current situation is not sustainable for Israel. Their economy is in practical freefall, their international standing has been heavily damaged, and they are having to go cap in hand to America to keep the country going.

straffo · « **Reply #68 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:28:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
You people make me sick. Seriously, I have no respect whatsoever for you anti war pukes. You are a f*cking disgrace.

This sentence show obviously that you never owned a mirror.
Do you smell funny too ?

Hortlund · « **Reply #69 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:30:01 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Do you smell funny too ?

No, Im not french...sorry.

straffo · « **Reply #70 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:38:57 AM »

Strange ...

you're an bellybutton hole without smell ?

Hortlund · « **Reply #71 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:41:15 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Strange ...

you're an bellybutton hole without smell ?

An amazinhunk without smell is strange to you?
Once again we get a little insight into the French attitude on personal hygien.

If you want to insult me or something Straffo, mail me instead so we can spare the rest of the board members this childish behavior.

straffo · « **Reply #72 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:49:52 AM »

I prefer using this BBS as it will show how inane you are mister "judge".

Don't make me laught about childish behaviour I've spent countless of hour arguing you didn't show any form of intelligence at any point ...

And looking at way you are regressing you will be soon unable to power on your computer.

Hortlund · « **Reply #73 on:** February 16, 2003, 07:59:36 AM »

Well, as I said, I dont want to get into some childish mudslinging contest with you on this BBS, so you will excuse me if I dont reply to posts like that one.

straffo · « **Reply #74 on:** February 16, 2003, 08:02:50 AM »

I won.