Author Topic: What about a bit more of diversity (Read 2410 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #60 on:** March 14, 2003, 05:12:34 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
deja... most forget that I flew the -1a allmost exclussivly last year.. I didn't fly it any different (I flew it poorly in other words) than I do the fm2 ... I flew it aggressivly as a turnfiter... er... "angles" fighter

don't really know why this was directed at me lazs... I didn't intend to imply anyone specific was doing anything specific in an aircraft. I meant everyone flies differently no matter what you put them in.

But since you brought it up... why the -1a? And... why were you successful in an early war plane vs late war rides?

The point is, someone can complain about what others are flying all they want... it doesn't make any difference. Its basically other pilots that you are complaining about... not their aircraft. Take those pilot's planes away and they'll just complain about their next ride.

MiniD

lazs2 · « **Reply #61 on:** March 14, 2003, 05:18:33 PM »

deja... I was agreeing with you.. I flew the -1a as you described the way some g10 guys do... on the deck turning but.... I am by far in the minority...

I think I do ok in planes like the -1a and fm2 because most don't expect me to attack them so they blank me out as a threat. that requires that there be more than a few planes in the area tho.
lazs

Urchin · « **Reply #62 on:** March 14, 2003, 06:20:32 PM »

Lazs is successful for a couple reasons. Lazs, this is no way an insult directed at you, so please don't take it that way- I know you are a very capable pilot.

Anyway, Lazs is successful for 2 reasons. First, he is a good pilot. That does play a role.

Second- Lazs doesn't fly alone. I don't believe I've ever seen him just out cruising around looking for solo enemies. He flies with his squadmates and they watch out for each other. Thus, he has more success in an "early war" F4U-1A than I think an equally skilled pilot who doesn't fly with a group of people would have. This, in my opinion, plays an even larger role in his success than his ability does.

I know it works that way for me, when I am flying alone I'll consider a 4 kill sortie to be a good sortie- when I used to fly with JG2 I wasn't happy unless I had 8-10 kills if we were flying as a group.. it is that much easier.

5 guys working together in inferior planes have a much better shot at killing 5 guys in superior planes that aren't working together than 1 guy in an inferior plane has at killing 1 guy in a superior plane.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #63 on:** March 14, 2003, 06:28:56 PM »

Im miffed 3 of my deaths this month are to a guy who cant even hold a 1-2 k/d in a spit 9.

2 of my deaths are Il-2s to his pony, 1 is 110 to his la7 and his horde of spit friends.

But Ive killed him everytime fight was even.

think of spits and la7s and ponys as crutches for baby seals.

bockko · « **Reply #64 on:** March 14, 2003, 07:50:35 PM »

pooh21, just because a dweeb killed you doesn't mean all pilots of that type of plane are! sounds to me like you got ganged. Perhaps you are a better pilot than the mystery dweeb who nailed you three times, but as long as there are hordes we will all suffer the horde death. Not the plane's fault. Pilot's fault, yours for getting in deep, theirs for hording. Not the plane's fault.

X2Lee · « **Reply #65 on:** March 14, 2003, 08:54:09 PM »

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Originally posted by wetrat
is probably a better fighter. Hell, I've been flying P-38's all tour and I'm 17-1 against them, and the G10 is twice the plane..

You outta your mind?

lazs2 · « **Reply #66 on:** March 15, 2003, 09:01:09 AM »

urchin... not to split hairs but... 90% of the time I fly with only one or two squaddies and they are pretty far off... spread out you may be seeing that I fly in groups.... at groups. My bute t is saved by other countrymen as much as by squaddies... the squaddies just do it better..

The rare times that we have 4 or more squaddies up is a real treat for us. help like no other.

and... let's clear something up... flying low and slow I have fought a lot of the new guys and they... the ones who fight... are pretty damn good... and getting better.. the high alt newbies and even vets who are terminally timid are much easier to kill in my opinion.
lazs

bockko · « **Reply #67 on:** March 15, 2003, 10:45:31 AM »

not to mention add themselves to the prox kill lists?

Curval · « **Reply #68 on:** March 15, 2003, 11:11:47 AM »

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Originally posted by bockko
[Bfunny, all those kill in a d9 -- the way i read mandoble's post is he wants more diversity in everyone else, otherwise I would expect to see his kills spread out among many other planes, but all d9 kills? The whole diversity point of this thread in baseless.
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Couldn't agree more.

I don't understand your argument at all Mandoble.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #69 on:** March 15, 2003, 02:45:56 PM »

Curval, read the thread and you will.

wetrat · « **Reply #70 on:** March 15, 2003, 05:30:58 PM »

Yeah Curval, read the thread and you'll understand that MANDOBLE is a hypocrite.

And lazs, I couldn't agree more about the new guys who fly low. Alot of them can be a better fight than some of the better pilots who are, as you said, "terminally timid."

lazs2 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 15, 2003, 06:34:00 PM »

yep... a lot of these newbies who are aggressive would kick the crap out of some of the more well known "historical" pile it's

I get a better fight out of them than I do some of the vets who come at me with a 5k advantage in a plane 50 mph faster than mine. man... i would be a little deflated if I attacked a low slow plane with a dee 9 and then got my tailfeathers pinged and had to run for my life so that I would't suffer the indignity of dieing and him knowing who I was.
lazs

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #72 on:** March 15, 2003, 07:30:10 PM »

wetrat, u seem to have 50% of your brain out of order. Diversity has two factors: what you fly and what you fight. And no, I'm not flying 190 exclusively. This tour I have about 90 aerial sorties, perhaps 25 have been using D9. You are so simplistic, you think that number of kills determine the usage of a plane, right?

lazs2 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 16, 2003, 08:59:17 AM »

mandoble... the planes that aren't being used are the mediocre and the early war planes...

If the arena were more fair to them so that we had a lot more divirsity then it would mean that the planes you like would have to be banned... you can't have an arena with late war fast planes and early war planes and the fields spread out to over a sector apart... if you do... people will fly only the late war fast ones... so... you have to get rid of all the fast ones..

that means that.... In order for you to get your wish... we would have to ban every plane that youi like to fly.
lazs

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #74 on:** March 16, 2003, 11:36:41 AM »

lazs2, you should know that your idea will end with a MA full of uber spitVs blazing hizookas everywhere. Do you really want that kind of diversity?