Author Topic: A few questions for Americans (Read 4388 times)

Toad · « **Reply #165 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:34:37 AM »

Imp, you're just another one of the many that thinks "free speech" means everyone else has the right to agree with what you say or post. Anyone who disagrees is "bashing" or "insulting".

You'll just have to take the bitter with the sour like the rest of us.

Imp · « **Reply #166 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:41:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Imp, you're just another one of the many that thinks "free speech" means everyone else has the right to agree with what you say or post. Anyone who disagrees is "bashing" or "insulting".

You'll just have to take the bitter with the sour like the rest of us.

Im not asking anyone to agree with me, im asking them to not post insulting remarks about a nation or group because they dont like them.

Some of what I wrote was wrong, I admit that.

Toad · « **Reply #167 on:** May 01, 2003, 08:18:26 AM »

The problem is that you and others like you seem to take ANY disagreement with your own positions as an "insult".

Imp · « **Reply #168 on:** May 01, 2003, 11:37:34 AM »

What I took as an insult is being called anti american for asking questions.

My first post did not say you (US) are hypocritical and or bullies.

I said it looked like that from the info I had. Looks is not the same as "you are" I think (maybe my english is even worse than I thought though.)

Now that I know more I already said Powell was justified.
I already said Chirac was wrong.

What more do you want?

Im not siding with the french.

Im glad Saddam is out. Ill be happy when they find Osama.

Im just asking not to be called things that I am not.

Whats so damn hard to understand about that?

I made some bad responses because I was a bit angry, that happens. Get over it for god's sake (not that I believe in god.)

Toad · « **Reply #169 on:** May 01, 2003, 11:43:08 AM »

I don't want anything other than for everyone to understand that while you are free to voice your opinion, so is everyone else.

And when they do so, it isn't an "insult" that they don't agree with you.

That's all.

Imp · « **Reply #170 on:** May 01, 2003, 02:22:40 PM »

Im aware of that Toad.

Calling me anti american is though. He doesnt even know me and yet he knows im anti american. How would he know that?

I dont know wether your anti french or not. And I dont presume to know. It doesnt really matter much anyway. You have the right to think what you want. But you didnt come into this thread to call me names like a child.

I just put him on my ignore list anyway and its gggrrreeeaaattt!!!

I dont have to see is insults anymore.
He seems to like insulting and attacking people alot.

Im through trying to make people understand that insult match never accomplish anything good though. Ive had my lesson.

<--- Cast this thread into the demon filled Abyss.

Martlet · « **Reply #171 on:** May 01, 2003, 02:32:56 PM »

I call it like I see it. When I see someone start a thread asking questions, then crap on the answers, I see it for being the troll that it is.

When I see the same person hopping on every opportunity to say negative things about the US, I call them as they are.

If you don't like it, then either don't read my posts, or post on BOTH sides of the fence. Doesn't matter to me. Just stop whining when I out you.

Vulcan · « **Reply #172 on:** May 01, 2003, 04:53:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Imp
My first post did not say you (US) are hypocritical and or bullies.

I said it looked like that from the info I had. Looks is not the same as "you are" I think (maybe my english is even worse than I thought though.)

OK, try this , go to your local dive, find the biggest meanest looking motherf**ker in the bar... then say

"from the info I have you look like you take it up the butt and have a small dick"

See how he takes it ... insult or not?

Toad · « **Reply #173 on:** May 01, 2003, 06:20:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Imp

Calling me anti american is though. He doesnt even know me and yet he knows im anti american.

There's many here that would consider being called "anti american" a compliment.

How are we supposed to sort you all out?

Imp · « **Reply #174 on:** May 01, 2003, 06:28:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
OK, try this , go to your local dive, find the biggest meanest looking motherf**ker in the bar... then say

"from the info I have you look like you take it up the butt and have a small dick"

See how he takes it ... insult or not?

If I wanted to insult americans I would do it directly.

I said it "looked like" not "it is", there is a difference:

Looked like is impressions that you are doing something (not accusations, which would be insulting) based on what I know.

It is states that I know, I already stated that I did not. Which would make it a fact (which is insulting because its not based on facts since I dont know).

I did not have all the facts and misinterpreted what happenned.
Some people posted, without insulting me, to explain the context.
I did not attack any of them.

I was asking why Powell threaten France with sanctions for not joining the coalition of the willing. I had not heard of Chirac's threatening statement.

After I got the fact I stated this:

Chirac's statement was out of line.

I also said Powell's statement was justified.

Im sorry if I insultied anyone.

Are you happy?

I was curious, guess I dont have that right here

If you cant take a question then dont read them is all the advice I can give.

Just let this damn thread go to hell damn it.

Martlet · « **Reply #175 on:** May 01, 2003, 06:41:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Imp
If I wanted to insult americans I would do it directly.

I said it "looked like" not "it is", there is a difference:

Looked like is impressions that you are doing something (not accusations, which would be insulting) based on what I know.

It is states that I know, I already stated that I did not. Which would make it a fact (which is insulting because its not based on facts since I dont know).

Yes, people say "looked like" all the time to avoid accountability.

It "looks like" you're a piece of crap anti-american, that knows dogs biblically.

Imp · « **Reply #176 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:24:17 PM »

Did someone say something?

Nope must be me hearing ghosts.

dracken1 · « **Reply #177 on:** May 01, 2003, 07:49:02 PM »

we live in a paranoid world
someone will always feel as if they are being attacked personally.
no matter if your critisisms are true or otherwise.
i used to be a welsh nationalist years ago and even today there is mistrust between the english and the welsh.

and what is the main critisism of the welsh by the english is that we speak welsh to each other even when an english person(who no one present may even know) is present.
welsh is our native langauge.
but the problems that has caused is unbelievable.
when openly critisised for doing this the usual reply is "ok when we in england you speak welsh as well.

people worry about anyone who is not the same as them. we are indeed strange creatures.
and in most cases the media is to blame. if someone important says something it must be true and if they say it on tv then it must be gospel and craved in stone.

if we stood back a pace we would see that we are all as bad and good as each other:D

Imp · « **Reply #178 on:** May 01, 2003, 08:34:26 PM »

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Originally posted by dracken1
we live in a paranoid world
someone will always feel as if they are being attacked personally.
no matter if your critisisms are true or otherwise.
i used to be a welsh nationalist years ago and even today there is mistrust between the english and the welsh.

and what is the main critisism of the welsh by the english is that we speak welsh to each other even when an english person(who no one present may even know) is present.
welsh is our native langauge.
but the problems that has caused is unbelievable.
when openly critisised for doing this the usual reply is "ok when we in england you speak welsh as well.

people worry about anyone who is not the same as them. we are indeed strange creatures.
and in most cases the media is to blame. if someone important says something it must be true and if they say it on tv then it must be gospel and craved in stone.

if we stood back a pace we would see that we are all as bad and good as each other:D

I didnt know the Welsh had theyre own language.
Thanks for enlightening me.

I feel uneasy when american indians use there language around me. Its hard to know if they are laughing at you since you I dont understand a word that they say. Maybe thats part of the reason?

You dont need to tell me about the media, they start more panic than anyone else. People put too much trust in them sometimes, they accept things without questions. They follow blindly.

Im a nationalist too, but I live in Quebec. No I dont hate the english speakers of Quebec (got to cover my arse, since everyone seems to accuse me of something around here).

What makes me angry is people who think they know everything about me even though they dont know me at all.

I didnt come in this thread attacking anyone, I was trying to get some answers.

Next time Ill spell it out so clearly that no one can misinterpret it.

Now lets hope this thread falls into the deepest darkest Abyss.

Martlet · « **Reply #179 on:** May 01, 2003, 08:55:56 PM »

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Originally posted by dracken1
we live in a paranoid world
someone will always feel as if they are being attacked personally.
no matter if your critisisms are true or otherwise.
i used to be a welsh nationalist years ago and even today there is mistrust between the english and the welsh.

and what is the main critisism of the welsh by the english is that we speak welsh to each other even when an english person(who no one present may even know) is present.
welsh is our native langauge.
but the problems that has caused is unbelievable.
when openly critisised for doing this the usual reply is "ok when we in england you speak welsh as well.

people worry about anyone who is not the same as them. we are indeed strange creatures.
and in most cases the media is to blame. if someone important says something it must be true and if they say it on tv then it must be gospel and craved in stone.

if we stood back a pace we would see that we are all as bad and good as each other:D

I live in Boston, which like most major US cities has a huge immigrant population. I love walking around listening to people speak other languages. I speak several, so sometimes it's a chance to "eavesdrop" and practice. Other than that, it's just fun to listen to another culture.

What bothers me, is when people work here and don't speak english at all. I had a guy deliver pizza last week, and I tried to ask him if he brought the soda I also ordered, and he couldn't understand I word I said. No matter how hard I tried, he just spoke zero english. Since I don't speak Russian, I couldn't communicate with him at all. That's just wrong. Tourists I understand, but if you are going to come live here, and work here, learn the language.