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Offline SLO

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« Reply #105 on: May 06, 2003, 09:27:14 AM »
what a bunch of whining dweebs.....


don't like the MA when trinity is on.....HT gave ya more choices

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« Reply #106 on: May 06, 2003, 09:53:04 AM »
Hehe , Mr. Toad. I'm not a map-whiner, so I guess I win too! I look at the map, see the opportunities, and formulate a plan. I'm sure I'll like it just fine! :D Always like new maps!

Lazs - Play how you like! Not saying you have to play my way at all!  But if you did, you'd be able to reset the map more quickly. :)

Nopoop doesn't want me to use the word "anomalous", so I'll use "ironic" instead. I think it is ironic that the 2-3 guys with the least interest in strat should have been the most vociferous in campaigning for   er..., changes to er... strat. :D WTG Lazs, Nopoop, and Mr. Toad. I'm sure I'll like your map design.

But won't all these changes be swept away by AH2? Won't the current tweaking be akin to rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic? Speaking of AH2, I'm looking forward to AH2, which we thought was going to be delivered as a Mission Arena. I even conducted my own poll to see who would be interested in playing in this, a strat-based arena. Almost everyone said they would - with two notable exceptions: Lazs & Nopoop - LOL!  I'm working on Nopoop. Lazs may be a tougher nut to crack. ;)

Mr Toad - good to hear from you this morning - I read about bad weather sweeping through what I believe is your area. Are you OK? Property OK? Wouldn't be fair for you to have to deal with another disaster, on top of that other business.

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« Reply #107 on: May 06, 2003, 10:15:33 AM »
"More CV's is good.. Is there any limit? was a great CV fight at 13 last nite for an hour.

Yes is was Laz ... just remember that the GV dudes on the ground played an important part in keeping that fight going. ;)

I popped 11 LVTs and Whels must be popped that amount if not more. Had we not been in GVs, the field would have been overrun by LVTs and the fight would have ended.

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Oh yeah, one other thing.
« Reply #108 on: May 06, 2003, 10:42:06 AM »
Now that the non-strat guys have got their strat changes, fewer resupply missions will be needed. I sometimes do those missions, by goon or M3. So I am delighted that my endeavours will be receiving greater reward - with more perks, I hope!

Serious Q to Mr. Toad, Lazs, and Nopoop: Now that resupply will be much more plausible, will we be seeing Lazs upping a goon, or Nopoop driving across the desert in a M3 in order to make the best use of these strat alterations? :p

Just askin'. I mean, that was the whole point of the strat change, wasn't it? To make it possible for resupply without an excessive number of trips?  Was it the excessive resupply trips you were whining about, or...  

...naah, I won't even ask the next part. You're surely not expecting someone else to do your dirty work. You guys would never do that, now would you???   :D;)

I'll teach you how to drive the M3. There's no clutch, so even Americans can do it. ;) Maybe let Lazs drive the M3, and Nopoop fly the Goon.

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« Reply #109 on: May 06, 2003, 10:42:53 AM »
I'll try one more time.

I have basically no interest in "strat" by your definition. I don't care if a map gets reset, who resets it or how exciting it is to shoot fuel tanks.

My "interest" in "strat" in this particular case is simply due to the fact that a mistake was made in the implemenation of one aspect of "strat" on THIS PARTICLAR map, Trinity.

Now, the interesting (IMO) part of the planeset will no longer be singled out for undue restriction on the Trinity map ONLY.

That you don't see that problem is immaterial because NB sees it and is going to fix it.

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Seems a bit silly that it takes one guys and one bomb 10 minutes to reduce a field's fuel by 25%. Then it takes 7 guys 10 minutes each to rebuild it.


It's merely the correction of a mistake, not an argument against all strat.

As you continually ignore, none of the folks you believe are "against" strat care one whit about strat, one way or the other. Have all the strat you can eat; good for you!

Laz, Nopoop, myself and others like us simply DON'T CARE about "winning the war" and we absolutely are happy if that's what YOU like to do. We ENCOURAGE you to do what you like to do.

All we ask is that we be allowed to do the same. And, typically, that's where YOU have a problem with us. You want us "in" on the building battling strat and we don't want to play your game.

I'm looking forward to AH2 as well. I'm sort of hoping all the Generalissimos will gravitate to it and stay.  ;)

The storm missed us here. I am dealing with American Family insurance on previous hail damage. Hundreds of people in this area got new roofs from their insurance company but so far, not one American Family insured home has. Go figure. Yeah, it'll probably be a class action lawsuit.
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Re: Oh yeah, one other thing.
« Reply #110 on: May 06, 2003, 11:06:37 AM »
No, again, the whole point of the correction of the fuel damage/strat mistake is in order to make the small gas tank planes more viable on Trinity.

When the fuel gets knocked down to 25%, ONE resupply will bring it back up enough to make all the planes usable.  That's the point of correcting the mistake, balance. One player can pork the fuel but one player can also restore fuel. Instead of 1 pork to 7 resupply, it'll be 1 to 1. Balance. Equality.

I'll fly one goon sortie to make the entire planeset useful at a particular base; I won't fly seven.
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« Reply #111 on: May 06, 2003, 11:32:53 AM »
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I'll fly one goon sortie to make the entire planeset useful at a particular base; I won't fly seven.
Well rgr that. Same here. And believe me, I know how you feel, as one who flies/drives those resupps. It WAS BS having to do 7 trips, and anyone who knows me will have heard me say "Forget the resupp. After ½ hour it all comes back anyway", and that's less time than it would take one person to do 7 trips.

Glad to hear you'll be gooning, and look forward to checking scores for Lazs and Nopoop to see how they're getting on with it too. :D

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« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2003, 12:13:14 PM »
I hope this doesn't shock you too awfully much, but I've gooned before.

See, it's about choice. I like to have a reasonable chance of taking off and flying to a fight and arriving with enough gas to hassle for at least 10-15 minutes in any plane in the planeset.

Now, that will be possible in Trinity although it may take ONE goon sortie.  Well done, NB!
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« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2003, 01:17:05 PM »
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LOL Mr. Toad!

 Sounds to me you want choices, but only your choices. When the other guy begins to steal a march by hitting your strat targets, this is deemed to be unfair!!!  



Beet1e, you keep using the word unfair.

Without rereading all of Toad's posts, I don't recalling anything relating to fair vs. unfair.

The point is fun vs. unfun.

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« Reply #114 on: May 06, 2003, 01:17:12 PM »
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I hope this doesn't shock you too awfully much, but I've gooned before.
LOL!  For you, that sounds like a busman's holiday to me. ;) Can see why you might not want to fly 'em.

Needed you just now to do 7 M3 sorties. We were down to 25%, but the F6F was still good for defence...

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« Reply #115 on: May 06, 2003, 02:15:15 PM »
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Beetle, get a hobby.


AHEM , I believe I am missing the credit here.

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« Reply #116 on: May 06, 2003, 05:24:50 PM »
u probly won't see me in a goon... I can allmost bet on it... doubt you will see me in  a GV.

slap... yes... thanks.  I look at all GV's the same way I look at lawyers (no offense nimitz)  you have to have em in the game to counter em in the game.   so long as someone besides me is willing to drive em I'm happy..  

beetle... I still don't care about strat.. I just want a place to fight.
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« Reply #117 on: May 06, 2003, 05:40:31 PM »
Rgr Lazs. So the strat change that the non-strat guys insisted upon having was not so that they could resupply the field. They want someone else to do it for them.  :rolleyes:

Well I guess it will work.  But sorties other than air to air are boring, don't you know! Suppose no-one wants to fly goons or drive M3? You won't get your fuel up above 25%. :eek:

Oh well, if the worst comes to the worst, you can always voice your complaint to HTC, and tell them that your virtual countrymen are not flying/driving the way you want them to. :D:D

Sorry, couldn't resist!
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« Reply #118 on: May 06, 2003, 06:52:12 PM »
With more fields added to Trinity and the conversion of GV bases to airbases......

the fights may well be close enough that we can dispense with worrying about the fuel. As long as you have enough to get there and fight a while......

Besides, there's tons of Generalissimo's that do all of our worrying for us, whether we ask them to or not.  :D
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« Reply #119 on: May 06, 2003, 11:34:27 PM »
Beetle are you really that thick?

Toad prefers a particular style of gameplay over others offered by AH....so do many others, myself included.

None of the crap you post will change that, as I could care less what you have to say about how I should play this game.

I'll play until I'm tired of it and find something else to do....if you like drivin goons and steerin GV's around and floatin in boats, then that's great for you....I started playing this sim because it was about air to air combat....I liked it best when it was simple.

12 years I've been doin this....followed Dale thru two of his ventures....the only constant in all of it has been stupid remarks from players like yourself. I guess it's good to be able to count on somethin huh?