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« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2003, 03:04:37 PM »
Is there any sentient being that read the post I made quoted by Beet1e as anything other than total sarcasm?

Just curious. I don't see how it can be taken as anything else but apparently Beet1e is continuing to troll or I'm forced towards a conclusion about his sentience.
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« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2003, 03:12:59 PM »
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Troll away Beet1e, I'm not biting.
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« Reply #62 on: May 03, 2003, 03:58:42 PM »
Just a thought, maybe if you guys didnt steam roll the smaller maps so fast then Trinity wouldnt come back as fast.

Personally I like Trinity, sure it has high mountains but Pizza has deep canyons, So What.

It's all air above the ground thats where we live.

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« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2003, 04:59:22 PM »
It's rare that someone continues a troll when the Warden has already issued the ticket for the violation.

So..... maybe it is a "sentience" thing, one way or the other.   :D
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« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2003, 06:32:56 PM »
geeze beetle... you have a real problem sticking to the point... you claim that I want to limit choice and then point to all the threads where I wanted INCREASED choice...

taken with how you are responding to toad... I would say that you have some sort of mental dislexia or... you are being untruthful?   I kinda think that maybe tho... what is really happening... is that you are forming responses without reading what either I or anyone else you respond to has said... sorta like a speech.

I am consitent.. I don't feel that I should be able to spoil the fun of many with very little effort... I don't think anyone should be able to.   suiciding into a building or fuel  takes little talent but has a huge affect..  I was serious in asking tho about the reasons people would do it.
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« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2003, 02:59:24 AM »
Mr. Toad. :) Ah yes, the current vogue word, "sentience". Probably derived from the French verb sentir, to feel.
You did not put a smiley on that "nobody's having fun in the MA any more" post, so it is disqualified as sarcasm. Hell, even Mini D will use a smiley/rolleyes when he's being facetious.

Lazs. You were not campaigning for increased choice in those threads. Oh wait you were - increased choice for YOU. Like I said, you don't like it when a group of guys exercise their freedom of choice to get organised. You don't like it when another group of guys exercise their freedom of choice to fly buffs, and maybe take out your fuel or your FH. You support moves to REDUCE these choices. You have in the past even suggested that jabos should be perked. That means that PP have to be earned - the jabos can't be flown from Day 1. Again, this is a REDUCTION in choice for those people of a mind to do it. No wonder you got your arse paddled in those threads. Ripsnort even bailed out, frustrated with, as he put it, your ME ME ME attitude.
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« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2003, 07:36:59 AM »
A Yogi Berra-ism trumps an emoticon by a power ratio of 10 to 1.

So, you're wrong again. :p
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« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2003, 08:53:05 AM »
old ground beetle.. but... if someone can limit the choices of many... he should have to put a lot of effort into it.. it shouldn't be easy...  perking bombs for jabo makes it a little harder since the person has to have some small amount of talent... you advocate the totally talentless ruining the fun of many with ease if you advocate easy bombing..

Also.. I think I did pretty good in the fluff thread.. the drone herders were actually reigned in a little after that too.  It will never stop the truly attention staved but at least lets make em work for it.

And... what is wrong with more choices for me... or anyone for that matter?   Infinity has a very gamey, silly tank town but I have no problem with it... I don't use it at all and I am glad the gv guys have the choice.

infinity is about lack of gameplay choice.. I have heard that it may get some fixes so that more people can enjoy the game when it is on... nothing for you to get excited about.

and... a burglars gun isn't the problem... the burglar and what he may do with it is..  even tho very few burglars in the U.S. are armed and, unlike the uk... our burglars don't hit hot (occupied) houses... they fear being shot.
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« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2003, 09:09:43 AM »
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A Yogi Berra-ism trumps an emoticon by a power ratio of 10 to 1.

So, you're wrong again. :p
Nope, you said what you said, and you were very careful about what you said. :p

I don't think I read that vorticon statement, as he's on my ignore list - at his own request I believe - lol.

I don't know about this Yogi-Berra business, but I am familiar with the expression "moving the goalposts around during the game". In fact it popped into my head as I read your rebuttal. Funny that! I wonder why that could have been.
:confused: ;) :p :D You're starting to sound like John McEnroe, swearing on court at Wimbledon. And then, when awarded a code violation, he says "I was talking to myself!". - LOL

Lazs, you get shot down on the BBS whenever you advance moves which would limit the choices of OTHERS. You seem to get willied with people duffing the fighter hangars because that limits YOUR choice of fields from which to fly. I keep telling you. The way forward is to learn to jabo, and advance your front line, or at least push the enemy back. What use is air to air combat on its own?  What's the use of having air support, if there's nothing to support? If all you want is two bases, with maybe a 10K air start on your side, ask HTC to create a Lazs arena. I wonder how many people would want to fly in that. It would probably end up like the WB HA.

But yes I agree - old ground. VERY old ground. Some things never change, and you're one of them. :D  lol

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« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2003, 10:13:49 AM »
Well, Beet1e...... you've got to be trolling. No one is that unenlightened. Not even you.

I'll let that entire clipped post stand. I'm sure anyone bothering to read this far has already realized what I truly said, particularly if the actually went to that thread and read my post in the context/flow of the thread.



:p  <-  Emoticon just for you.
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« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2003, 08:21:54 AM »
yep... he intentionally is not getting it.  beetle... if everyone played exactly like you want them to and, assuming 50% or so could stay awake while doing so, trinity would still be boring and in the rotation too often.

Get it now?
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« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2003, 08:49:24 AM »
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If all you want is two bases, with maybe a 10K air start on your side, ask HTC to create a Lazs arena. I wonder how many people would want to fly in that.  :D  lol

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« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2003, 09:24:19 AM »
I have to agree with my CO earlier.

these same "Type" of complaints were around when the akdesert map came out. add to that the horrible color scheme in the original release of it.

here you say the bases are too far apart. hmmmm... why is it whenever i am online i can find a furball less than 1 sector away all the time?

are you talking about bases being far apart because of the mountains inbetween some bases? those are part of the countries "front". it should take a concerted "team" effort to get across these and into emeny territory.

all things said.. i LOVE trinity. it is the most beautiful map we have. the terrain is lovely to look at. the clipboard is the best around. the layout has something for everyone.

lets just compare it to ndisles. there all bases are 0.0k basically... thats real fun :rolleyes:

how about sfma..... the layout gives the northern countries the advantage (the south country has an alt dis-advantage the whole time.

baltic.... everyone and their mother knows every detail about it. the spawn campers @ A1 piss everyone off.

mindanao.... the closest thing to trinity there is. beautiful rolling hills and terrain. layout is kind of hosed with the "arm" off to the west.

akdesert... ugly as a zit on your arse. vehicles can run across the map from hangars 5 sectors away (so you cant kill them).


yes these are negative comments about each map. this is what i have listened to in the past year and 4 months about each. there are positives for each map too .... just like trinity, but it seems you all just want to fly on these old tiny stale maps.

oh well my 2¢ (am i the only 1 who knos how to put the "¢" symbol in? :D)
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« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2003, 10:23:35 AM »
Generalismo Bettle...

I believe there is still the matter of a $14.95 subscription in order for my services in your army of righteous building battling.  I expect payment be made immediately or I release the collector:



I’ve been down that path and oddly enough a yogism strikes me.  “When you see a fork in the road, take it”
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« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2003, 11:09:32 AM »
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yep... he intentionally is not getting it.  beetle... if everyone played exactly like you want them to and, assuming 50% or so could stay awake while doing so, trinity would still be boring and in the rotation too often.

Get it now?
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No, I do not. Geez, Lazs. We've got your squaddie nopoop whining about slow map rotation in that other thread that he started, and now I've got you complaining that map rotation back to Trinity would be too fast!

You BK guys whine about being stuck on a certain map, but you do nothing to hasten map rotation. Then you whine about people who do - fluffs, as you call them, and generally pour scorn on folks who do anything other than air to air combat. Then, when someone points out what you could do to hasten map rotation, you whine because you don't want to get involved with that, and despise those that do. Still, both you and Nopoop come from CA - good wine country.

Maybe you think strat is boring, but I don't think it is. I enjoy the fights that arise out of efforts to capture/defend a base. Seems to me you're interested only in "manufactured" fights, ie. furballing.