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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2003, 09:24:27 AM »
When the "new" trinity hits the rotation and it is resetable in a reasonable length of time I would think the old way will return.

WB277 Island terrain was a blast. The europe terrain was alot of fun too. Ahh when we was lads..
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2003, 09:59:15 AM »
we have a lot of maps and each has it's fans and it's detractors... the problem was that 2 of the maps are very large and are hated by a good percentage of the players..  some of the maps are small and reset easily... if you like the smaller maps you never got a chance to play em... if you hated the large maps you were forced to play em most of the time.

The different maps cause different gameplay... to be stuck on one map and one type of gameplay was not a good thing.  

no one complained in dos AW that it was $2 or even $6 an hour but that doesn't mean that we should go back to that.   No one complained about the two dimensional planes... Guess we all just demand a little more in todays market.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2003, 10:12:39 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2003, 03:28:51 PM »
the main goal of the game should be to have fun,but the problemb I see is that without any real goal,its just a place to go fly. Ive seen my squad members (and I)try for 12 hrs in a row to take bases, it gave a sense of purpose to the game. I've been just flying around trying to "have fun".but the difference is,now after about 2-3 hrs of flying around killing without purpose, the game gets a little boring.I find myself wanting to go play something else.you've taken a highly addictive game and turned it into a good place to fly for a while.but im shure you guys know what your doing.i guess the game has been getting to crowded.this should take care of it.

does anyone know of a good "realistic" online war game?:(
« Last Edit: May 25, 2003, 03:53:24 PM by sqwigly »

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Re: i agree
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2003, 04:01:17 PM »
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I find myself wanting to go play something else.


Let me know how it goes, cya.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2003, 04:02:28 PM »
I'm like sqwigly. I like the fights, but not simply for their own sake. I feel as if I'm on a hamster wheel, unless there's some ulterior motive. That's all. I've amended my sig to quote Apache.

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Re: i agree
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2003, 04:03:53 PM »
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does anyone know of a good "realistic" online war game?:(
Well if it is realism you are looking for, what difference does it make if the arena changes or not?  How realistic is it anyway to have P51s fighting F4Us, or Spitfires fighting Hurricanes?  The MA itself is not realistic.  If you are looking for more 'realism', have you thought of trying the CT for general flying, and taking part in Special Events which are held throughout each week and all use historical matchups?  As some of us say, the MA is simply a practice arena for the Special Events!  :D
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2003, 04:37:01 PM »
im not askin for much,i dont want perfect realism.but every game has a goal,even checkers.the difference between the way it is now and the way it was is that no one cares about stealing bases anymore.so there is no real point.for me and my 14 squad members,the "fun" was in getting organized, planning a mission,and stealling bases.the reason we stole bases was to win the war and get a new map.now that everyone knows the map is just gonna reset to the same dam map,no one cares.so what are we to do?get 10 people together and go shoot ack-ack down in his p 38?big deal-i dont need a squad for that,just my spit 5.
 for those who fly 1 time a week in a week,im shure you wouldent understand the problemb with the change,but tods is not enough for the die hard player,they are short,poorly organized,you are told what to do,and they are generaly pointless.they are a good test of squad skills but thats it.have you ever heard"wow the axis made a great comeback"or"the tod battle is really goin good"no you havent,thats because all it is,is a bunch of squads that fly for a certain target at random bases each month.there is no gaining of ground through fighting,there is no continuation of the battle.you fly your mission and next week they give you another.its a test not a war.i dont care about realism,put a heat seeking missle on your plane,ill still fight ya.but if there is no point to stealing bases i dont see the fun and i dont see the point.



p.s. hey pumba,thanks for your response,it really helped the disscussion alot.im shure no one will miss me if i left but htc might see it a little different when i find another game and take my 14 members with me.lets see 14 times 15$=210$times12 months=2520$per year.but yes i will let you know how it goes pumba.what is a pumba anyway?isnt it that african weasel?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2003, 04:40:14 PM by sqwigly »

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Re: listen
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2003, 04:47:19 PM »
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p.s. hey pumba,thanks for your response,it really helped the disscussion alot.im shure no one will miss me if i left but htc might see it a little different when i find another game ant take my 14 members with me.lets see 14 times 15$=210$times12 months=2520$per year.but yes i will let you know how it goes pumba.what is a pumba anyway?isnt it that african weasel?

I see you add better than you read.

You don't wanna pick a fight with me buddy.
I didn't like you whinnin and askin for a "real game", indirectly putting this one down, and i still don't like it. Using your squad to attempt to lend weight to your bi*ching , is even sadder.

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who picked the fight?"c ya"
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2003, 04:58:23 PM »
pumba im the first one to stand behind this game. i recomend it to everyone i know.ive sent them thank yous several times.ive played almost every game ever since pong and i think this is the best ever, but when i say my squad will leave,its not me trying to threaten anyone.its because my squad,and everyone in the arena,is very unhappy with the change.they are talking about quiting.i am simply trying to fix the bad change that was made as a representative of my squad.I am the last one to whine about anything but this was a mistake and unless you let people know how you feel,they wont know how you feel.so tell me pumba,what do you do in the game?bases dont matter,so what do you do?fly around an kill afew people?how long does this stay "fun" for you? 2-3 hrs?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2003, 05:07:03 PM by sqwigly »

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ohhhh bumba
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2003, 05:04:20 PM »
i get it your name is bumba,my bad.must be my upside down dislexsia.so then whats a bumba?i dont wana guess,you might think im pickin a fight again:D

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Re: listen
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2003, 05:15:05 PM »
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get 10 people together and go shoot ack-ack down in his p 38?big deal-i dont need a squad for that,just my spit 5.



You'd have a better chance with 10 people than alone...


And as for your other points, have you tried offering some solutions instead of threatening to take your ball and go home?

The map rotation system shows that HT listens to the community and is willing to work with it when the community offers up viable solutions.  I'm sure HT will listen to the community again when it offers up a viable solution to the problem, since he's clearly done so in the past.  Threatening to quit the game and take your squad with you isn't the way to do it.  You may not realize it but when you leave, a couple of new players come in to fill in the void your squadron left.

How about writing to HT and ask him to increase the perks you get at reset like I mentioned in my previous post?  Double or even triple the amount of perks you get and I'm sure you'll find a lot willing to try to make an effort and win the map if it means getting a 100+ perks across the board.

Frankly, since the community is the one that got itself in this mess, it's the community's obligation to get it out of it and not cry to HT when things they wanted turned out to be not as they hoped it would.


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« Last Edit: May 25, 2003, 05:17:22 PM by Ack-Ack »
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point taken ack
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2003, 05:54:00 PM »
i guess im just gettin a little frustrated.but i think i have made some good points.so my recomendation is this.although i think the map should not change without a winner,its obvious this wont happen.so at least,still change it on friday but if its won durring the week change it as well.what i dont understand though is whats gonna happen when its 10 min till the change and one team is down to 3 bases about to loose?it resets anyway and the whole fight was for nothing?

as far as my "threat" goes about leaving the game,it is not meant as a threat, i see the game going downhill,i dont like this,I dont want it to go down hill,i love this game, I live this game.but i see people not having fun with it allready because of the change and threatening to quit.my desire to play the game is down,heck im in here writing books to try to "fix" whats wrong instead of flying.so those of you who think im against the game might wanna reconsider.im not tryin to pick fights with anyone, but no one likes being called a whiner.

It was the masses that caused this so i will wait and see if the masses can fix it.im done

thanks for your wise words ack

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Re: point taken ack
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2003, 06:05:19 PM »
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i guess im just gettin a little frustrated.



I feel the same way too but for different reasons.  Flying this tour feels like more of a chore than fun for me at times and I'll admit it's not as fun as it used to be.


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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2003, 06:30:48 PM »
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Why couldnt they just go back to the old format (Win the war the terrain auto rotates).

But also do a manual terrain reset on Fri like now.

That way you win the war the map rotates, but no map will be up for longer than a week.


Yes!..Please implement this idea..:)
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