main arena changes

[lazs2]

beetle... you understood that?  Now I am worried.

fyurious get's it..  the only variations possible in the game are the furball and whatever the new strat is.  The strat allways get's stale... it takes from one hour to one year but even the most board game, building battler figures it out in a year...

That is why the strat guys are allways clammoring for more... more strat... more things to blow up... their fun is dependant on.... updates.   No matter how happy.... they will be unhappy in the near future.  They will "quit forever" and become "bored" when the game desighner doesn't figure out a way to keep them constantly ammused.   Some never figure it out.   And that is fine.

The furballs also stay the same.... which is to say.... they are never the same..  they are different every time you enter one.  They are only dependant on the game designer allowing them to occur.   Those who participate in them don't get bored and wander off... they just get better... they may play less... but they stay.   The action packed furball will allways be the draw for them.
lazs

[lazs2]

squigly... football or whatever have a difference... they don't run 24 hours.

In flight sims like this with A2A combat... some are on for 1 hour a night and some for 12.. the ones on for twelve are in a different game from those on for an hour..  Most realize that any "winning the war" goal is pointless and beyond their control... After all... the country with the largest numbers ALLWAYS wins.  

If you think about it... the only reasonable "goal" for such a format is.... To have the best A2SA combat you can have in the time allotted to you.   Everything else will simply get you all upset and eventually burn you out.
lazs

[streetstang]

Originally posted by sqwigly
Well every one is starting to find out that youve changed the map rotation format.Now all i hear is "what good is taking a base?"in my opinion youve taken the whole point of the game away.The main arena has become one big furball.This is fine if you play for stats but as most of us know,stats can be faked.So whats the point?.when the map changed every time someone won it,people fought to win.People who hated the map fought to get rid of it and people who liked it fought to hold it,I heard it all the time.Maps should never be reset unless someone wins it,this takes away from the realism of the game.If it takes a month to beat a team then it takes a month,thats war.Now everyone is discuraged and theres talk of quiting. I dont want to quit,i love this game and i think its the  best around,i put alot of time into my squad. So please consider that no one likes what youve done and maybe change it back.If nothing else please tell me the logic behind the change?

Theres power in numbers so if you agree that it should be chaged back please post a reply here and let them know.if you dissagree post it and tell me why its a good thing.

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Sqwigly   C/O  Fate

Sqwigly,
         You could not have said it any better or more accurate than you just did. It is very true, every last word. I have spent the last week in either the DA or the CT due to the fact that when I log on, and select the MA, all you see is mass-furballing. Which is fine if that is what a player is interested in doing. But when I hear, "who cares about taking bases, the map will be gone in a week"!!! This makes me want to close my acount to be honest with you HT.

GET RID OF THIS NEW METHOD OF MAP ROTATION PLEASE.

Jeffer

[Furious]

Originally posted by streetstang
Sqwigly,
         You could not have said it any better or more accurate than you just did. It is very true, every last word. I have spent the last week in either the DA or the CT due to the fact that when I log on, and select the MA, all you see is mass-furballing. Which is fine if that is what a player is interested in doing. But when I hear, "who cares about taking bases, the map will be gone in a week"!!! This makes me want to close my acount to be honest with you HT.

GET RID OF THIS NEW METHOD OF MAP ROTATION PLEASE.

Jeffer

Holy crap.  You can still blow stuff up.  You can still reset the map.  You can still suicide into a fuel bunker.  You can still be all you can be.

So much hand wringing going on its just plain stupid.  All these "I'm gonna quit" posts over not being able to make the map change might just be the most retarded events I have ever witnessed.

...and after taking a quick peek at the offenders stats, I now see why something other than the actual combat part of the game is bothereing them.  228 hours so far this tour.  WOW.  You need to some other things.

[beet1e]

Lazs, your two posts above are presented as statements of fact, whereas they are really subjective points of view. That's why sqwigly, streetstang and myself do not share them. That's not the same as saying you're wrong, just different. FWIW, my furball days were in WB with the purps - I had to fly early morning, and you were there - I remember you well - c1998.

But I also remember how we were getting pushed back and back by jabo/capture guys. Then, we couldn't take off at all! That's when I got interested in jabo/capture, and other stuff. Furballing had held my interest for all of three months...

I don't seek to deprive you of furballing, but clearly the strat guys/building battlers need their fun too. So the big issue is that if the two cannot exist side by side, why try to effect changes to the MA when the DA has everything you need for furballing?

[vorticon]

Originally posted by beet1e
Lazs, your two posts above are presented as statements of fact, whereas they are really subjective points of view. That's why sqwigly, streetstang and myself do not share them. That's not the same as saying you're wrong, just different. FWIW, my furball days were in WB with the purps - I had to fly early morning, and you were there - I remember you well - c1998.

But I also remember how we were getting pushed back and back by jabo/capture guys. Then, we couldn't take off at all! That's when I got interested in jabo/capture, and other stuff. Furballing had held my interest for all of three months...

I don't seek to deprive you of furballing, but clearly the strat guys/building battlers need their fun too. So the big issue is that if the two cannot exist side by side, why try to effect changes to the MA when the DA has everything you need for furballing?

everything but numbers...whats worse is that a lot of the "turn ap rotation back to normal" people were the ones demanding that it be changed...

now as i fly hth i am constantly playing in a different enviroment...i can furball when i want i can "strat" when i want and it almost always happens on another map...and i get burnout just like everyone else because guess what...the gameplay is almost exactly the same no matter what map...really the only thing that changes it is who your playing with/against not what the ground below you looks like...

[streetstang]

...and after taking a quick peek at the offenders stats, I now see why something other than the actual combat part of the game is bothereing them.  228 hours so far this tour.  WOW.  You need to some other things. [/B][/QUOTE]

1. what part of the combat within this game did I make mention of, besides the blahse` attitudes that erupted as a result of this new map rotation???
2. the time that I have spent on line would or would not make me credible enough to comment accuratly on this subject???

[Furious]

Originally posted by streetstang
1. what part of the combat within this game did I make mention of, besides the blahse` attitudes that erupted as a result of this new map rotation???

I wrote a long reply, but I am tired and I stopped caring.

I like the new map rotations.  If it causes you mental anguish, then I think I like it even more.  Nothing personal.  It's just that not being able to make the map change is just such a stupid gripe.

[sqwigly]

some of you apperently need help with your reading comprehention(i need help with my spelling)so ill say it real simple for those on the short bus.the problemb is that there is no goal.the problemb is that there is no goal.the problemb is that there is no goal.if you dont care about goals then fine,go play.if your trying to convince me that there never was a goal,then you obviously never got it.
 how does the fact that this game runs 24/7 have any berring on the fact that we need a goal?
 when you say the game is based on numbers,your right.but that was allways fun.i love holding on to the last base trying to beat overwhelming numbers,it was a challange,it was a goal.i was on last night under these circumstanses and the first thing i heard was "just let them take it".this is the point,no one cares anymore.if you havent noticed a problemb,just be there when the map changes and watch the response when we start at the same dam map on the same side for the 7th time this week.

hey ack ack,last night i shot down someone named akak in his p38 with my spit 5  3 times.was that you?lol

[beet1e]

sqwig - if the P38 pulled up high, then performed an inverted HO, it was probably AKAK.  

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by sqwigly


hey ack ack,last night i shot down someone named akak in his p38 with my spit 5  3 times.was that you?lol

Hey sqwigly I shot down someone named sqwigly 2 times in his Spitfire V with my P-38 last night, was that you?

BTW- it was only twice.  


ack-ack

[sqwigly]

yes you got me on that fly by while i was engaged
i think it was fate

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by sqwigly
yes you got me on that fly by while i was engaged
i think it was fate

LOL...and your kills weren't in a similiar situation?


Ack-Ack

[sqwigly]

im a turn fighter,i chase people.b n z not my style

[Ack-Ack]

If you're under the illusion that any of our fights at A43 were 1v1 affairs, it's a false one.  When you got me it was when I was engaged with a couple of other Bishops and when I got you it was in the process of clearing a comrade's six.

If you want, next time we're both on at the same time we can have some fun in the DA.


Ack-Ack