SPYING...........stop doing it FFS.....

[Shane]

Originally posted by acepilot2
He said "SO? IN REAL WAR THERE ARE NO FAIR FIGHTS!?!?!?"

Yeah, but this is a game...

It is almost funny...they are such excuses.   For all you lamer wimp nadless hordemonkeys out there out there, learn how to fight like a man.

sorry to paraphrase, but i simply couldn't resist.

i laugh at the whole hamstard wheel. and enjoy all aspects at times. but gawd, so many clueless leading the noobs.

[Blue Mako]

If someone is spending another $15 to have a second account to spy then I consider that a voluntary tax on the stupid.

[Fariz]

If you will apply several easy routines when making mission, it will help to make percentage of intercepts before the target close to minimum.

a) Never say the base your are up from and base you hit until the mission starts. Even then say it at mission channel only.

b) Always plan having second base/target in mind, if before the start of mission situation changed unfavourably, change start base and go for second target. Best to have those 2 tagers quite far away from each other, so if it is spying, guys who are up at other side will be bit frustrated looking for you where you are not.

c) If you go over dar make sure it is in a part of map where other side is not looking. OR hide your dar with long friendly dar in sector.

d) Always consider NOE.

e) There is spying, but not so many. Not every time you are out of luck, it is spying.

My last 30+ strat missions were successful, without a single case of what I think could be a spying. I saw spying before, but it is rather exceptions than rule. If you plan wisely, chances to be intercepted before you get alt/speed are not that big.

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Eagler
most of the tardness started when the price dropped to $14.95 ...
just sayin...

Thats why if you raised the price to $140.95 all the tards would go away.   Everyone knows rich folks are better suited to fly AH.   Dont you think montly Income could just replace the Rank system?

OK,  Im just poking a little fun at ya,  But the price isnt the problem.   Perhaps a larger player base might be a contributing factor.  That also comes from advertising, better sim and many other factors.

IMHO Capture the Flag or you might call it Land Grab is a major factor.  Its the Goal set by HTC in the MA.   So if your playing AH in the MA then capturing bases is what is encouraged.   Sadly its not Air Combat,  its Land grab.   AC is something that is only a by product.  

Overall,  I have few problems with AH.   I do wish you could get into more balanced fights, but it does make the ones you find all the more memorable.

[B17Skull12]

spuying isn't a problem for me it is my big mouth i was teasing the bish last night when i put together huge mission to defend 80 i got 20 262s in the mission and bunch of 109la7 all those dweeb planes.just my big mouth that ruins my missions. btw ive spied on bish before (only spent 1 hour over there) they did no missions or any of that stuff so i just got a tigr out and just started killin rooks all day until i when back to knights which then when i came back i went into a huge furball just to be shot down 20 times by some flaks


skull12

[Ack-Ack]

I think it was the name you gave the mission that doomed it from the outset.  Not many would want to fly in a mission named 'Golden Shower'.


ack-ack

[DmdNexus]

Ok so what's the issue with spying?

When I flew AW, I used to give my position over Ch 1 so people could find me and then I could kill them.

I didn't have to fly for 30 minutes to find a fight - it came to me in a horde.

The best battles are not the ones that were sneaked and stolen when the enemy was busy somewhere else and not paying attention.

It's the knife fights, those fights that cut and churn, take all your attention and skill, and your heart beats faster because the other guy is good. It's the challenge of fighting the best and beating the best.

The victory worth celebrating is the struggle which could go either way. Still your side prevails, made that extra effort, fought smarter, fought harder. and perhaps an ounce more luck.

So what if the other side knows where we are at and what we are doing.....

All I have to say to them is..... BRING IT ON!

To do otherwise would mean a life of mediocrity and ho-hum.

We are men of air and steel. We fight with molten metal. We live in the wind and die in flames.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I think it was the name you gave the mission that doomed it from the outset.  Not many would want to fly in a mission named 'Golden Shower'.


ack-ack

That explains alot!

This explains why so few joined Op:Arabian Goggles, Op:Hot Carl, Op:Glassbottom boat.

And no one showed up for Op: Cleveland steamer.

Go figure.

[Silat]

Originally posted by Eagler
most of the tardness started when the price dropped to $14.95 ...
just sayin...

 Naw...... When the price was higher we just had a more elitist bunch of tards.  

[Warchief]

I know the feeling. I launched a mission adn like any new comer I told everyone where I was going in hopes of getting some fighter escorts on the return trip of my long range bombing mission. I spent 3 hours in flight looping around radar. Had no bases blinking nothing. The only thing blinking was my target. I was deep behind enemy lines over 200 miles. I got close to my target and my alt was 35k and low and behold I had 6 enemy fighters waiting for me. Some might say well jet aircraft can get that high really quick. OK but out of the six there was one 262, on 163, 2 P40e and the rest where spitfires. They maintained a pattern around my target waiting for me. It is stuff like that ruins peoples fun. I flew 3 hours and was never detected or spotted just have someone rat me out over my target. my best advice to ensure it doesnt happen to you is to what my squad the 92nd Bomber Group does. We do squad missions and we do not announce where we are goin g or what we are doing until we are coming back.

[BNM]

Originally posted by Eagler
most of the tardness started when the price dropped to $14.95 ...
just sayin...

Freakin snob ... baaahhh.

Originally posted by Blue Mako
If someone is spending another $15 to have a second account to spy then I consider that a voluntary tax on the stupid.

Hehehe... bingo!  

[Eagler]

Originally posted by BNM
Freakin snob ... baaahhh.

 
Hehehe... bingo!  

LOL

so you think they'd spend another $30 to spy?

lowerin the price lowered the standard - happens in everything

[rod367th]

Originally posted by Warchief
I know the feeling. I launched a mission adn like any new comer I told everyone where I was going in hopes of getting some fighter escorts on the return trip of my long range bombing mission. I spent 3 hours in flight looping around radar. Had no bases blinking nothing. The only thing blinking was my target. I was deep behind enemy lines over 200 miles. I got close to my target and my alt was 35k and low and behold I had 6 enemy fighters waiting for me. Some might say well jet aircraft can get that high really quick. OK but out of the six there was one 262, on 163, 2 P40e and the rest where spitfires. They maintained a pattern around my target waiting for me. It is stuff like that ruins peoples fun. I flew 3 hours and was never detected or spotted just have someone rat me out over my target. my best advice to ensure it doesnt happen to you is to what my squad the 92nd Bomber Group does. We do squad missions and we do not announce where we are goin g or what we are doing until we are coming back.

Warchief Do you think your invisable. You fly near enemy Hq. and think there was spy lolloololollolololololoolol. You will see enemy up to kill HQ buff all day long.


You were on radar whole time. Your plane put up a count bar. Everyone know what area you were in.

[Samiam]

Originally posted by Fariz
If you will apply several easy routines when making mission, it will help to make percentage of intercepts before the target close to minimum.

And there it is.

I am also baffled as to why so many people spend good $$ on an air combat sim simply to avoid air combat.

And if it's "realism" and a strategic challenge you are after, you should be broadcasting all of your missions to channel 1 and hoping that a decent defence is mounted - isn't that where the fun is?

[Grimm]

Never mind